Hydrogen Road Tour in Phx

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Sorry for the late notice. Heard it on the radio today...

http://hydrogenroadtour08.dot.gov/

Friday August 22, 2008
Phoenix, Arizona
Time: 8:00-11:00am
Location: Gateway Community College, 108 North 40th St, Phx, AZ 85008
Contact: Bill Sheaffer, 480-314-0360

Local Organizer: Valley of the Sun Clean Cities

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so they proved hydrogen fuel cells are $700K more expensive than lithium electrics, have less range and you can't refuel H2 from any home like you can EVs at 120 volt sockets anyplace. Also fuel cells can't do regenerative braking or start in cold weather.

hydrogen may have a place in a hybrid or other system but right now the best vehicles are all or part electric. Even the big 3 didn't say we can make a fuel cell car and save our company, the showed real hybrids and even pure electric and say they will be here in 2010 and affordable.

Even with oil/gas at $1.50 or so electric is still about 80 cents for the same energy, 40 cents off peak TOD.
Electric can be made at home with solar , wind or small hydro. Using it to run your car can pay off twice as fast or better. It can even be backup power in a power failure of your area.

New lithium batteries are going to drop in price, charge faster and last longer each year just like computer chips did.

With V2G Vehicle to Grid you can charge off peak 4 cetns 1 KwH and sell on peak 20-30 cents a KwH. You can could pay for itself.

We need all the choices we can get and part battery electric improves them all like hybrid of gas, diesel, H2 , CNG, LNG or human power. Each is better and helps the other.