The Volt: GM is, slowly but surely, screwing it up...

[jayman]

Originally Posted by daniel

I thought "we" knew that a couple of decades ago.

Correct. I fear that "we" are in danger of being burned at the stake as witches, if our society regresses any further

Originally Posted by daniel

We voted Jimmy Carter out of office for saying that. Good thing you moved to a civilized country. It can be dangerous to say that down here.

I'd suggest that Canada is moderately more civilised than the US at this point, which I guess is enough for me. Of course, most of the EU member countries are far more civilised again. Ever see a bunch of giant quad-cab pickups and suv's idling in traffic while in London, Paris, Geneva, etc?

[richard schumacher]

Originally Posted by darelldd

Let's leave the weight of the batteries and try to take the weight off the passengers.

I've been waiting for someone to devise a means of running small electronics (satellite radio, iPod, laptop) on serum cholesterol and sugars.

[PriusSport]

Originally Posted by jayman

Ever see a bunch of giant quad-cab pickups and suv's idling in traffic while in London, Paris, Geneva, etc?

...you mean the ones with tiny ladies behind the wheel with cell phones stuck in their ear? LOL.

[DaveinOlyWA]

well, BEV's will suffer a setback when gas hits $5-6 a gallon here in less than 12 months and all of sudden, gassification of coal becomes profitable. montana will be glad to hear that and their loan wolf governor will be hailed as a hero, we will continue our march to global warming, gm will see a reprieve and go back to selling their SUV's after providing an incremental increase in gas mileage knowing full well that an easily obtainable 25-30 mpg vehicle will be comparable to what we drove in the early part of this century cost wise.

that will put off any real advancement of BEV's another few years as gm effectively ignores the growing segment of the population that has decided not to commute farther than what a decent BEV can handle. gm will suffer more profit losses, but this time because of the depressed housing market coupled with poor foreign currency exchange rates, gm's outlets will not be able to support their american car operations. they will go thru several downsizing operations, ignoring the cash cow they have in BEV research and patents...

so, hopefully all this will only take a few years, after all, they had their time in the sun, and HAS CHOSEN to fail.

[hill]

Originally Posted by Jimmie84

I guess GM figured that when the Prius was released that nobody would buy them so they would not even think of creating a Hybrid. Well, Now that these Hybrid cars are indeed in high demand they basically screwed up not creating it.

had they done it from the get go they would have the huge market right now over Toyota. Of course, That all depends on the quality.

I see the screw up and I hate admitting it but I really hope GM turns there issues around and gets back on track.

I'm glad to hear you've come around.

BTW, I just LOVED reading Lutz's most recent pack of lies. Seems it wasn't him at all, trying to keep EV's and hybrids out of GM's lineup, and land boat-caddies & SUV's on the road ... no ... it was GM's marketing research firm. THEY, kept saying that WE the customer want GM land barges. And finally, Lutz said "enough ... we too, shall make a hybrid ... regardless of what the public wants". I kid you not. This was his droll from his latest interview. Which would you rather spell, "LIE" ... or "BLAME".

[jayman]

Originally Posted by hill

BTW, I just LOVED reading Lutz's most recent pack of lies. Seems it wasn't him at all, trying to keep EV's and hybrids out of GM's lineup

I really don't understand how a person can fubar a company as badly as this character has, yet still retain the gold-plated pay and severance, along with the apparent good wishes of the GM fanboys

My ass would have been out the door for a small fraction of the fubar

[Jimmie84]

Originally Posted by hill

I'm glad to hear you've come around.

BTW, I just LOVED reading Lutz's most recent pack of lies. Seems it wasn't him at all, trying to keep EV's and hybrids out of GM's lineup, and land boat-caddies & SUV's on the road ... no ... it was GM's marketing research firm. THEY, kept saying that WE the customer want GM land barges. And finally, Lutz said "enough ... we too, shall make a hybrid ... regardless of what the public wants". I kid you not. This was his droll from his latest interview. Which would you rather spell, "LIE" ... or "BLAME".

Is this "interview" on the web somewhere?

[RonH]

Originally Posted by jayman

Correct. I fear that "we" are in danger of being burned at the stake as witches, if our society regresses any further




I'd suggest that Canada is moderately more civilised than the US at this point, which I guess is enough for me. Of course, most of the EU member countries are far more civilised again. Ever see a bunch of giant quad-cab pickups and suv's idling in traffic while in London, Paris, Geneva, etc?

No, but while you were there did you see the thousands dying in a heat wave in France?

[daniel]

Originally Posted by RonH

No, but while you were there did you see the thousands dying in a heat wave in France?

Which wouldn't have happened if they'd all had Chevy Suburbans so they could curl up in the air conditioning with their engines running??????????????

[RonH]

Well "Doh!" As to whether that makes them more or less civilized than the US is an open question.