Lutz hints at Pure EV Volt

[Godiva]

Everytime GM makes makes a vaporware announcement, they're damaging their credibility.

Lutz has cried wolf too many times. Pretty soon, no one will listen.

[bac]

I would never consider a GM auto. I can only imagine the issues with a GM hybrid or fully electric auto. Not gonna happen for me ... ever.

... Brad

[CLEEVE]

Originally Posted by bac

I would never consider a GM auto. I can only imagine the issues with a GM hybrid or fully electric auto. Not gonna happen for me ... ever.

... Brad

I'm with you, Brad! There is no way I would buy any GM, Ford, or Chrysler product. These vehicles are garbage! My 30+ years as a Consumer Reports subscriber has made me quite aware of this fact!!

[TonyPSchaefer]

Originally Posted by CLEEVE

I'm with you, Brad! There is no way I would buy any GM, Ford, or Chrysler product. These vehicles are garbage! My 30+ years as a Consumer Reports subscriber has made me quite aware of this fact!!

Perhaps, but have you driven a Ford lately?
Geez, how many decades have they been using that slogan?

And apparently, Mercury has figured out that by saying "you've got to put Mercury on your list" they were publicly admitting that they know Mercury's not on your list. I haven't heard that one in a while.

[Tideland Prius]

Originally Posted by daniel

As soon as Toyota announces a PHEV-40, potential Prius buyers will back off...

I don't know about that. PCers maybe. I know most of us would jump on a PHEV-40. But to the general public, they would rather get a Prius cause now it's "proven" and the PHEV-40 is "new".. plus people are lazy and they don't want to plug it in so they see the extra cost as waste cause they won't use it. (gee, I wonder if they think the same way about the power moonroof which has the sunshade closed all the time or heated seats that rarely get turned on).

[darelldd]

Originally Posted by Tideland Prius

I've noticed GM has made a LOT of annoucements. Toyota, Nissan, Ford and Honda haven't. Why all the media hoola?

Nissan has promised a full-featured EV in the US by 2010.

Originally Posted by hill

The prototype EV1 WAS a 4 door version.

There were several ideas built up. One was a 4-door. And one was (drum roll please) a serial hybrid EV1. These were all built for demonstration purposes back in the late 80's.

[daniel]

Originally Posted by Tideland Prius

I don't know about that. PCers maybe. I know most of us would jump on a PHEV-40. But to the general public, they would rather get a Prius cause now it's "proven" and the PHEV-40 is "new".. plus people are lazy and they don't want to plug it in so they see the extra cost as waste cause they won't use it. (gee, I wonder if they think the same way about the power moonroof which has the sunshade closed all the time or heated seats that rarely get turned on).

I don't think so. It takes less effort to plug in a car in your garage every night than it takes to stop at a gas station, pump gas, and pay for it once every few days or a week. With the present and likely future price of gas, I think regular folks would jump on a PHEV from a company with a reputation for reliability, especially when it seems to be just one step up from a proven car with lots of positive press (at last).

[Tideland Prius]

Originally Posted by darelldd

Nissan has promised a full-featured EV in the US by 2010.

I've read about that. But my point was the frequency of GM annoucements.

Originally Posted by daniel

I don't think so. It takes less effort to plug in a car in your garage every night than it takes to stop at a gas station, pump gas, and pay for it once every few days or a week. With the present and likely future price of gas, I think regular folks would jump on a PHEV from a company with a reputation for reliability, especially when it seems to be just one step up from a proven car with lots of positive press (at last).

Ok put it this way, how many people plug their engine block heater in? Around here (Ontario), it seems like nobody does. They rather idle or remote start than plug it in.

[daniel]

Originally Posted by Tideland Prius

Ok put it this way, how many people plug their engine block heater in? Around here (Ontario), it seems like nobody does. They rather idle or remote start than plug it in.

Where I used to live, in North Dakota, they plug in or their car doesn't start. Nobody leaves their car idling all night long.

Edit: When gas hits $10/gal (i.e. next year) they'll be happy to plug in rather than visit the pumps.

[JackDodge]

When you wish upon a star,
Makes no difference who you arrrrrrre,
even if you'r Bob Lutz who works for GM and it's not really possible except in your mind and you want to leapfrog past Toyota but you're hard-pressed to just catch up to them but you can still dream about that dream carrrrrrrr