More Volt misleading info

[Tideland Prius]

Originally Posted by Prius driver

Probably the most misleading part of the article is this

"The Volt, with an initial production run of 10,000, is expected to hit showrooms in 2010. After that, GM plans to build tens of thousands per year."

I find that hard to believe.

The Chinese may be interested in the Hummer since their gas is subsidized and remains around $1.50/ gal. Or one of the middle eastern countries so they can decrease the oil supply even more.

CNN/Money: Gas prices around the world

Originally Posted by ceric

I know for a fact that Taiwan's gas price is NOT $2.48.
It is close to $4.2 after recent hike from $3.70 a few weeks ago.
Don't trust all data you read. I am not sure the data of China is correct, either.

exchange rate is $30.35 NTD/USD

--- quote from source ---
The price of unleaded gasoline will rise to 33.9 Taiwan dollars (1.11 US) per litre from 30 dollars. The price of diesel fuel jumps to 31.9 dollars per litre from 27.5 dollars.

To both of you, Prius Driver is referring to mainland China where gas is subsidized and kept at 70 something cents a litre.

Ceric is talking about Taiwan and has nothing to do with subsidies from the Chinese gov't.


Are we clear on that? It's funny to see both of you go at each other (We seem to have a lot of those nowadays on PC). You're both right but for some reason needed to prove the other wrong

[jayman]

Originally Posted by Tideland Prius

To both of you, Prius Driver is referring to mainland China where gas is subsidized and kept at 70 something cents a litre.

So lets see, 3.78 litres per US gallon and 4.54 litres per Imperial gallon. At 70 cents a litre, $2.65 a US gallon or $3.18 an Imperial gallon. Hardly cheap

[Tideland Prius]

Originally Posted by jayman

So lets see, 3.78 litres per US gallon and 4.54 litres per Imperial gallon. At 70 cents a litre, $2.65 a US gallon or $3.18 an Imperial gallon. Hardly cheap

Cheaper than ours lol. Shows you how much of the fuel is taxed

[AussieOwner]

Originally Posted by Tideland Prius

Cheaper than ours lol. Shows you how much of the fuel is taxed

And much cheaper than what we pay in Australia. Saw the price this morning as I drove past a gas station - $1.69 per litre.

And the Prius and the HCHII are still the only hybrids available, although the government is trying to convince Toyota to build a hybrid Camry here.

[samiam]

Originally Posted by AussieOwner

And much cheaper than what we pay in Australia.

Luxury! Here we have to make our own petrol by squeezing old Holdens and Fords and mopping up the oil on the roads after it rains...

[nerfer]

Originally Posted by Tideland Prius

Cheaper than ours lol. Shows you how much of the fuel is taxed

Or subsidized. U.S. Federal tax is 18.4 cents/gallon, average state tax is 28 cents/gallon. We're probably closest to actual market value of any country. Anybody see the price of gas in Kuwait or Venezuela lately?

Hint: do a Google search and get numbers, not just hurl insults. Unless you're the one being attacked, most of us think of PC as being quite polite for the most part (outside of FHOP).
This is a good example. It also has mainland China ($.66/liter) but not Taiwan(?), U.S. comes in at #102. Australia is #82, squeezing old Pintos must work pretty good, NZ is currently #99.

[samiam]

Originally Posted by nerfer

This is a good example. It also has mainland China ($.66/liter) but not Taiwan(?)

I had a lot of trouble reading that table (because the figures for NZ didn't match what I could see at the pump today). Then I realised that the figures were not prices per litre, but the ratio of the price of petrol in each state to the average world price. Thus the price in China is not $.66 per l, but 66% of the world average.

Petrol here is $2.00 per litre, or $1.58 USD per litre, or $6 USD a gal.

[daniel]

Originally Posted by AussieOwner

And much cheaper than what we pay in Australia.

Originally Posted by samiam

Luxury! Here we have to make our own petrol by squeezing old Holdens and Fords and mopping up the oil on the roads after it rains...

Oh yeah? Well, when I was a kid we had to pulverize coal into dust with our bare feet to put in our gas tanks, and then since cars wouldn't run on coal dust we had to carry our cars to school, walking on our bare feet, bruised and raw from stomping on lumps of coal! So there!

[TimBikes]

Originally Posted by nerfer

Or subsidized. U.S. Federal tax is 18.4 cents/gallon, average state tax is 28 cents/gallon. We're probably closest to actual market value of any country...

You are aware that there are significant costs for securing our oil supplies that are not reflected in the price at the pump, right? Add those costs in and the price for a gallon would roughly double. So I wouldn't say we are close to market value.

[jammin012]

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