E85 - 5 million cars on the road now

etyler88 · 01-30-2006, 09:16 AM

Richard Branson is getting on board this one.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/for...dex.htm?cnn=yes

Proven concept, old news in Brazil.

hobbit · 02-07-2006, 11:00 AM

Question is, is the Prius sold in Brazil, and if so what are the
differences that make it flex-fuel? It would be nice to be able
to do a retrofit in the US.
.
I really hope Toyota chooses the right path here, e.g. allowing
stateside folk to upgrade existing cars rather than just saying
"buy a new one"...
.
_H*

ScottY · 02-07-2006, 11:18 AM

Another question is how many of those 5 million flex fuel cars are actually using E85 fuel?

malorn · 02-07-2006, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by ScottY@Feb 7 2006, 10:18 AM
Another question is how many of those 5 million flex fuel cars are actually using E85 fuel?

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We have sold hundreds and I would guess that less than 25 are actually using it. This will change over the next year as folks become aware of it and there are more places carrying E85.

ScottY · 02-07-2006, 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by malorn@Feb 7 2006, 11:19 AM
We have sold hundreds and I would guess that less than 25 are actually using it. This will change over the next year as folks become aware of it and there are more places carrying E85.

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I would hope so. I did a search on http://www.e85fuel.com. The closest E85 refueling station is located in National Energy Technology Lab, PA.

Jonnycat26 · 02-07-2006, 11:26 AM

How hard is it to brew your own ethanol? Is it anywhere as easy as making your own biodiesel?

malorn · 02-07-2006, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by Jonnycat26@Feb 7 2006, 10:26 AM
How hard is it to brew your own ethanol? Is it anywhere as easy as making your own biodiesel?

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Probabaly not that hard to make some sort of E85 brew. I was told it is basically 'moonshine', so if that is true you would just need a still. I guess the prevalence of stills depends on your geography.

JackDodge · 02-07-2006, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by ScottY@Feb 7 2006, 11:26 AM
I would hope so. I did a search on http://www.e85fuel.com. The closest E85 refueling station is located in National Energy Technology Lab, PA.

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There are a couple of the stations that aren't too far out of my way. Hmmmm, maybe I can get that Silverado pickup truck after all. oh my god, what am I SAYING!?!?

dsunman · 02-07-2006, 11:50 AM

as I am not an expert in this area maybe someone will find this interesting
http://www.c4aqe.org/Economics_of_Et...ek_ethanol.pdf

jfschultz · 02-07-2006, 11:55 AM

Would E10 or E15 be a better option for now and phase in E85 as cars that can use it get into more general use? As I recall nearly all cars (if not all) can run on E10 or E15.

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01-30-2006, 09:16 AM	#1
etyler88 etyler88 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dover, DE Posts: 450 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: #3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 1	Richard Branson is getting on board this one. http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/for...dex.htm?cnn=yes Proven concept, old news in Brazil.

02-07-2006, 11:00 AM	#2
hobbit Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bahstahn Posts: 3,837 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: N/A Package: Base Thanks: 0 Thanked 335 Times in 165 Posts Friends: 0	Question is, is the Prius sold in Brazil, and if so what are the differences that make it flex-fuel? It would be nice to be able to do a retrofit in the US. . I really hope Toyota chooses the right path here, e.g. allowing stateside folk to upgrade existing cars rather than just saying "buy a new one"... . _H*

02-07-2006, 11:18 AM	#3
ScottY Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 1,249 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: #3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Friends: 1	Another question is how many of those 5 million flex fuel cars are actually using E85 fuel?

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Jonnycat26 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Brunswick, NJ Posts: 1,748 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	How hard is it to brew your own ethanol? Is it anywhere as easy as making your own biodiesel?

02-07-2006, 11:50 AM	#9
dsunman Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 389 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	as I am not an expert in this area maybe someone will find this interesting http://www.c4aqe.org/Economics_of_Et...ek_ethanol.pdf

02-07-2006, 11:55 AM	#10
jfschultz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Germantown, TN Posts: 405 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	Would E10 or E15 be a better option for now and phase in E85 as cars that can use it get into more general use? As I recall nearly all cars (if not all) can run on E10 or E15.