Do grass lawns help global warming?

[MarkMN]

Grass lawn?? Blahh... Multiunit housing in the city is the best way to go, then you don't have a lawn whatsoever to worry about. You people and your energy guzzling housing styles. <_<

[Darwood]

Multi-unit housing...
No thanks.

Most are rentals, I own, which means I make money on my property instead of paying rent and getting nothing back.
Even townhomes and other "owned" multiunit housing are unappealing to me.
You have limited if any gardening space, Most have association fees and rules. Dogs are a pain in those where they are allowed, both for the owner and the neighbors. Your neighbors bed could literally be 8 inches away from yours.
Your neighbors could burn down/flood their (and hence your) house/possessions. They could just be an Ahole and make your life there miserable and resale goes down due to their own lack of caring or late night partying. Parking is always tougher.

Granted, some of these are true to a smaller degree with houseing, but you can better predict which homes will build value by the neighborhood than you can in a multihousing unit.

My first house, in an inner ring suburb, resold for 2.5 times what I payed for it (9 years, and a lot of remodeling later). Now I'm doing the same to a 2nd house that had been neglected.

[acdii]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Apr 4 2007, 12:12 PM) [snapback]417676[/snapback]</div>

Obviously not - they indicate the presence of homosapians - the #1 cause of gw. So no lawns = no humans = no global warming.


[/b]

DO you seriously believe that statement? Really? I suppose you grovel at al gores feet too! Really! Wow, that is mind boggling. Here, let me explain to you what causes global warming. THE SUN!!!!!!! I suppose you think we are also the cause of the ice caps shrinking on mars because we humans have a mars rover up there too! CO2, does not generate heat, it may help maintain heat, but it in NO WAY CAUSES HEAT! The sun has been brighter in the past few years than it has been in at least the past 100 years. We have contributed a small portion to CO2 output, that is a given, but so do Volcanoes, and forest fires, and guess what, those occure naturally. I am not denying that the earth may be a degree or two warmer than past records show, but then again, history has shown that warming and cooling of the planet in extreme degrees is natural, and has happened long before humans were here, and will happen long after we are gone.

BTW if global warming was such a big factor, then why the hell has it been so damn cold this week? THe daily temps havent even reached the normal lows! If you believe Gore, the biggest hypocrite of them all, then I have one thing to say to you. You are a FOOL. [/rant]

[Godiva]

And it ain't the fall that kills you.

It's the sudden stop.

There's a difference between weather and climate.

[SSimon]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ACD @ Apr 8 2007, 12:36 AM) [snapback]419722[/snapback]</div>

BTW if global warming was such a big factor, then why the hell has it been so damn cold this week? THe daily temps havent even reached the normal lows! If you believe Gore, the biggest hypocrite of them all, then I have one thing to say to you. You are a FOOL. [/rant]
[/b]

Gore is the deliverer of the GW message, not the source. The majority of climate scientists concur that the planet is warming as a result of human contribution.

In your end statement you declare that you also base your views on your local temperature. GW is not based on the temperature trends in one area.

You also attacked the wrong person. Dbermanmd rejects the theory of GW. His sarcasm abounds.

So, you exhibit obvious error on multiple fronts.

[patsparks]

Who would have guessed the depth of ignorance was so great?

[Godiva]

Well, So Cal is being forced into even more water conservation. We have to cut another 20%. Or I should say the "little people" will have to conserve probably about 80% to make up for those who will simply continue to overwater their huge lawns because "they can afford it".

I don't have lawn. I have brick with planter beds. I have a small patch of what I'm hoping will be dicondra in the front. The rest is trees and bushes. Roses, geraniums, a few ornamental grasses. I'm looking to put in three more trees but they will be dwarf fruit trees and on drippers. I'm going to espalier them up the garage wall. Except for the dicondra patch (about 10x14) everything else is on drippers. But my water consumption *is* going to go up. Because before I had dirt that I didn't water, now I have plants that I am going to water, even if I'm watering as conservatively as I can. Why should I have dirt and cactus for landscaping when I can go through every affluent neighborhood in the county and find huge lawns that use more water in a week than I use in a month? Why do those lower in the social order have to do without so those at the very top can have anything they want?

Call me spoiled or self-indulgent but I think I'm entitled to some trees and bushes. It also raises my property value to have trees and roses instead of dirt and rocks.

So....are roses and geraniums better than ornamental grass lawns?

[h2photo]

we just killed our grass lawn and put in Rocks. It was costing us a fortune to keep it pretty, green, & Weedless. It was great for us too, the city gave us $200 back for switching 50% of our lawn to an environmentally friendly yard.

[tripp]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(h2photo @ Sep 1 2007, 10:45 AM) [snapback]505450[/snapback]</div>

we just killed our grass lawn and put in Rocks. It was costing us a fortune to keep it pretty, green, & Weedless. It was great for us too, the city gave us $200 back for switching 50% of our lawn to an environmentally friendly yard.
[/b]

Good on ya. Grass lawns in AZ make no sense. I used to live in Tucson and there's a neighborhood there (called Winterhaven) that has it's own water company. They REQUIRE you to have a green lawn. It's bizarre. I ran through there once and it was like I stepped through a portal to back east. Dumb asses. Such a waste of water. Do they still have those ridiculous fountains in Phoenix?

[SSimon]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Sep 1 2007, 11:19 AM) [snapback]505440[/snapback]</div>

Call me spoiled or self-indulgent but I think I'm entitled to some trees and bushes. It also raises my property value to have trees and roses instead of dirt and rocks.

[/b]

There are some trees native to your area that probably have a deep tap root and rarely need will rarely need supplemental watering. Around here, the Shagbark Hickory has a tap root about 20 feet deep at maturity (from what I last read). You can have your cake and eat it to. Then you can at least appear to be keeping up with the jonses.