PriusChat Forums  

 
Spy
Go Back   PriusChat > PriusChat Forums > Environmental Discussion

Environmental Discussion This is a discussion on Power up them wind turbines!!! within the Environmental Discussion forums, part of the PriusChat Forums category; http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/n...DA1009?id=48393 I never understood why wind turbines got so much scrutiny for killing birds when tall building, cats, sulfur dioxin ...


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 05-07-2007, 03:42 PM   #1
burritos
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: California
Posts: 2,859
My Car: 2006 Prius
Package: #1
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Awards: 0
Friends: 2
Default

http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/n...DA1009?id=48393

I never understood why wind turbines got so much scrutiny for killing birds when tall building, cats, sulfur dioxin in the air, car exhaust, electrical towers all get a pass.
burritos is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 05-07-2007, 04:03 PM   #2
larkinmj
Senior Member
 
larkinmj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,996
My Car:
Package:
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Awards: 0
Friends: 0
Default

I did a research project on this for The Nature Conservancy. Most wildlife organizations, such as The Audubon Society, support wind energy. The only wildlife organization that I could find that opposed it was a group dedicated to bats. There was one early wind farm in Altamont Pass, CA that was poorly sited and used older technology turbines, and it did cause a number of raptor fatalities. The newer turbines are much more bird-friendly, and by careful siting, the danger to birds can be minimalized. I would guess that the overall improvement to the health of birds from decreased emissions makes up for it.
I suspect that the complaints about bird hazards from wind farms comes not from bird-lovers, but from people who oppose wind energy for other reasons.
__________________
Mike Larkin

http://www.myspace.com/deadbluessociety
larkinmj is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2007, 05:03 PM   #3
tripp
Which it's a 'ybrid, ain't it?
 
tripp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 3,724
My Car: 2005 Prius
Package: #3
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Awards: 0
Friends: 2
Default

First off, thank you for not calling them wind mills. That aside, yeah the newer technology reduces what risk was posed. Altamont was bad for several reasons that include: a large number of turbines in a migratory area, high rpms on the turbines (modern, large turbines' rotors spin much more slowly than the sub megawatt turbines of old), and the towers for the turbines actually made good roosting sites (the modern ones are steel tubes that don't provide any roosting sites). Kind of a "perfect storm" of avian death and destruction. Those causes are pretty much a thing of the past at this point.
__________________
Cheers,

Tripp

2005 Silver Pkg 3, OEM Block Heater, Coastal Tech EV mod, BT Tech Chassis Stiffener, hell damned infernal reverse beep disabled
Boulder Real Estate
Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.Howay the Toon!

"Sometimes when you aim for the stars, you hit the moon." -- Ian Holloway
tripp is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2007, 05:11 PM   #4
jiepsie
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 267
My Car:
Package:
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Awards: 0
Friends: 0
Default

There is a project here called Night Wind, to find a solution for storing excess wind generated electricity and help balance demand and supply. Their solution: store the excess energy in freezers. No, this is not a joke.
jiepsie is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2007, 05:12 PM   #5
richard schumacher
nacreous lacquer
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 4,099
My Car: 2004 Prius
Package: #6
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Awards: 0
Friends: 0
Default

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(larkinmj @ May 7 2007, 03:03 PM) [snapback]437045[/snapback]</div>
Quote:
I suspect that the complaints about bird hazards from wind farms comes not from bird-lovers, but from people who oppose wind energy for other reasons.
[/b]
People who think that they spoil the view. Sheesh.
richard schumacher is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2007, 07:55 PM   #6
tripp
Which it's a 'ybrid, ain't it?
 
tripp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 3,724
My Car: 2005 Prius
Package: #3
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Awards: 0
Friends: 2
Default

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lowlander @ May 7 2007, 03:11 PM) [snapback]437090[/snapback]</div>
Quote:
There is a project here called Night Wind, to find a solution for storing excess wind generated electricity and help balance demand and supply. Their solution: store the excess energy in freezers. No, this is not a joke.
[/b]
Another approach that's being tried in Iowa is compressing air and storing it in geologic structures. The air is then used later when the wind isn't blowing.
tripp is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Floating wind turbines? 2009 hb06 Environmental Discussion 0 06-29-2007 10:25 AM
Political FUD against Wind Power EricGo Environmental Discussion 4 05-30-2007 04:41 PM
How run a Prius with wind power Eric Nothman Prius Main Forum 10 11-20-2006 12:24 PM
Residential Wind Turbines For Sale SSimon Environmental Discussion 18 06-30-2006 12:21 PM
Unexpected Downside of Wind Power DaveinOlyWA Environmental Discussion 36 04-29-2006 01:52 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:23 PM.


Find us on Facebook!
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0