Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says Scientist

[fairclge]

'Forget global warming, prepare for Ice Age' | NEWS.com.au


Sunspot activity has not resumed after hitting an 11-year low in March last year, raising fears that - far from warming - the globe is about to return to an Ice Age.
Astronaut and geophysicist Phil Chapman, the first Australian to become an astronaut with NASA, said pictures from the U.S. Solar and Heliospheric Observatory showed no spots on the sun.
He said the world cooled quickly between January last year and January this year, by about 0.7C.
"This is the fastest temperature change in the instrumental record, and it puts us back to where we were in 1930," Dr. Chapman writes in The Australian today.
"If the temperature does not soon recover, we will have to conclude that global warming is over."

[F8L]

From what I've read, sunspot activity does not have a large impact on climate unless extrapolated over a large period of time. Does this guy have a paper on the subject or just the news media article?

[fairclge]

No I don't know of any other supporting information. Just like to through a opposing viewpoint on the subject to keep it real...

[F8L]

Originally Posted by fairclge

No I don't know of any other supporting information. Just like to through a opposing viewpoint on the subject to keep it real...

It should not be considered an opposing view until it has been validated... If I decide to take out an article claiming I am a seraphim angel does that make it true?

Again, if you are going to post an opposing view then please try to find something in a peer reviewed journal that has credibility. I'm all for opposing views in the science world but I'm not for media hyperbole.

[markderail]

The huge snowfall this winter in Eastern Canada, is indicative of increased humidity and energy (storms).

The summer before that was very wet. Our personal garden produced next to nothing.

So I think a global shift of weather patterns, increased storms all year round. Hardly an Ice Age scenario.

[fairclge]

Originally Posted by F8L

It should not be considered an opposing view until it has been validated... If I decide to take out an article claiming I am a seraphim angel does that make it true?

Again, if you are going to post an opposing view then please try to find something in a peer reviewed journal that has credibility. I'm all for opposing views in the science world but I'm not for media hyperbole.

Astronaut and geophysicist Phil Chapman, the first Australian to become an astronaut with NASA, said…
Are you an expert on angles? If so, I may read what you have to say on the subject matter and decide for myself if I believe it or not.

As for the story,
I think you have to trust multiple media sources from which this article is sited. So I do believe its Phil Chapman’s opinion. He is an astronaut and geophysicist and this is PRIUS CHAT not academia.
I respect your request that opposing thought must be vetted first and peered reviewed with a stamp of approval; nothing like group think when it comes to science. You have to respect others right to post (free speech). Like other posts on the web it’s up to you to decide what you believe it and do some self research on the subject matter.

Do I believe the story, who knows? Google the subject and you will get topics that say sun spot do / do not affect the earth’s temperature.

Mostly, I posted this topic to get people to post comments such as yours...

[F8L]

Originally Posted by fairclge

Astronaut and geophysicist Phil Chapman, the first Australian to become an astronaut with NASA, said…
Are you an expert on angles? If so, I may read what you have to say on the subject matter and decide for myself if I believe it or not.

As for the story,
I think you have to trust multiple media sources from which this article is sited. So I do believe its Phil Chapman’s opinion. He is an astronaut and geophysicist and this is PRIUS CHAT not academia.
I respect your request that opposing thought must be vetted first and peered reviewed with a stamp of approval; nothing like group think when it comes to science. You have to respect others right to post (free speech). Like other posts on the web it’s up to you to decide what you believe it and do some self research on the subject matter.

Do I believe the story, who knows? Google the subject and you will get topics that say sun spot do / do not affect the earth’s temperature.

Mostly, I posted this topic to get people to post comments such as yours...

I respect your right to free speech but the problem is repeating inaccuracies to the point where the mass populace believes them regardless of their factual basis. This is harmful to society and should be discouraged. Because this man is a geophysicist makes him an expert in climatology? How did you come to this conclusion? IMO you should be very careful about which media sources you believe since they are owned and regulated by very few corporations with vested interests.

So in a nutshell there is nothing wrong with you posting such information, what I feel is wrong is assuming that it is true and/or presenting the information as a situation balancer as if this man's opinion somehow nullifies the other 90% of the scientific population's opinion.

As for this not being academia, well I'm delighted that PC at least tries to tease out factual data or else we'd be like every other forum filled with uneducated clowns who latch on to the first news article they find and claim it as gospel. Try reading some of the racing forums and you'll know what I'm talking about. LOL

[dogfriend]

Originally Posted by F8L

If I decide to take out an article claiming I am a seraphim angel does that make it true?

I just read that you are a seraphim angel (whatever that is). Is that true?

[F8L]

Originally Posted by dogfriend

I just read that you are a seraphim angel (whatever that is). Is that true?

Of course my son. I've sent my message through Cardinal Glick. You may view his mdeia message here

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[F8L]

Originally Posted by fairclge

'Forget global warming, prepare for Ice Age' | NEWS.com.au


Sunspot activity has not resumed after hitting an 11-year low in March last year, raising fears that - far from warming - the globe is about to return to an Ice Age.
Astronaut and geophysicist Phil Chapman, the first Australian to become an astronaut with NASA, said pictures from the U.S. Solar and Heliospheric Observatory showed no spots on the sun.
He said the world cooled quickly between January last year and January this year, by about 0.7C.
"This is the fastest temperature change in the instrumental record, and it puts us back to where we were in 1930," Dr. Chapman writes in The Australian today.
"If the temperature does not soon recover, we will have to conclude that global warming is over."

There is a neat documentary by National Geographic that speaks on the subject of the sun's magnetic field and it's effect on gamma rays and their effect on climate. I watched it a week ago and it was pretty good. See here:


*edit* I noticed this is not the full version. Unfortunately you have to watch it to the end where they state that greenhouse gasses like CO2 are very important climate drivers and the information on the sun's affect on climate does not change this and in some cases could actually make things worse depending on what kind of solar activity we recieve.