If you use the term "footprint" conversationally, are you an environmentalist?

[tripp]

Originally Posted by Michgal007

Terbium footprinting.

brilliant!

[tnthub]

Originally Posted by zeeman

how do they "protect our freedom" by blowing up countries, spreading DU and having military presence in some 180 countries?

pretty soon there would be no countries to blow up

The problem isn't the people serving their country or the tools they use who are in the line of fire... The problem is the lack of wisdom to know when and how we need to utilize this type of skillset.

[tripp]

Originally Posted by tnthub

The problem isn't the people serving their country or the tools they use who are in the line of fire... The problem is the lack of wisdom to know when and how we need to utilize this type of skillset.

Cheers mate. I couldn't agree more.

[zeeman]

Originally Posted by tripp

I would be far more concerned about mine tailings than DU pollution. DU is used in a variety of AT munitions and in M1-A1/2 armour. In the latter, it's not directly exposed to the atmosphere, but is sandwiched in with steel and ceramics. DU would only be an issue in the case that rounds were actually fired at a target. I don't think the training rounds contain DU as that would be a bit expensive, so it's only rounds fired in anger. That hasn't happened much. I'd be more concerned about a host of other environmental issues before tackling DU.

so, what you are saying is
as long as you are the one pulling the trigger --all is cool with you?

what if you were on receiving end?

would it matter then?

[tripp]

Originally Posted by zeeman

so, what you are saying is
as long as you are the one pulling the trigger --all is cool with you?

what if you were on receiving end?

would it matter then?

I'd prefer not to be on either end, but as the saying goes, 'tis better to give than receive.

[Jack66]

Originally Posted by zeeman

so, what you are saying is
as long as you are the one pulling the trigger --all is cool with you?

what if you were on receiving end?

would it matter then?

The direction of this topic is straying from the OP's question and is more relevant in FHOP -- why don't you start a moral/ethical thread there or create your own thread in the environmental discussion directory on the environmental effects of DU?

[zeeman]

Originally Posted by tripp

I'd prefer not to be on either end, but as the saying goes, 'tis better to give than receive.

well, looks like the table are turning
slowly but surely Americans are becomming NEXT targets:



Militarized Police Celebrate Killing Americans

A former US Army tank driver asserts that two figures depicted on the side of an APC SWAT tank that was recently used to protect cops from the deadly threat of women and children during the raid of a West Texas polygamist retreat actually represents the amount of people killed by police.

Gary Roberts, a veteran Army tank driver in the 80’s, relates to us the fact that the two figures etched into the side of the US M113 Armored Personnel Carrier denote “kills,” as in how many people the SWAT unit has killed. The other image appears to depict a vehicle, according to Roberts.

Roberts appeared on The Alex Jones Show today to confirm the fact that Midland County police are apparently so proud of the people they have murdered, they feel the need to emblazon it on the side of their souped-up tank.

Bragging about how many victims a militarized police unit has claimed sounds like a story out of Maoist China or a Communist dictatorship like Zimbabwe, but it’s happening right here in America.

As the Associated Press reported at the time, “Police wore body armor, sported automatic weapons and were backed by an armored personnel carrier for a raid on a West Texas polygamist retreat.”

“A sect member whose wife shot the video said sect members got the impression that state officials “were doing something more than they said they were going to do.” The man declined to give his name for fear that speaking out would cause problems for his children, who are in state custody,” according to the report.

Vote New York Blog Archive Militarized Police Celebrate Killing Americans

so, how does it feel now?

[zeeman]

Originally Posted by Jack66

The direction of this topic is straying from the OP's question and is more relevant in FHOP -- why don't you start a moral/ethical thread there or create your own thread in the environmental discussion directory on the environmental effects of DU?

why don't you tell that to other people who have moved on this track before i did?
all i did is -- i answered a question to someone who asked me for the proof that DNA is damaged by DU.


besides, even if i were going to start such enviromental a thread -- i know where it would lead.
I know full well that if you want to have a good discussion you need to have relatively aware and informed people on a certain subject matter.

i do not see that here, so i will not go into it.

[CarolinaJim]

Originally Posted by zeeman

I know full well that if you want to have a good discussion you need to have relatively aware and informed people on a certain subject matter.

i do not see that here, so i will not go into it.

Thanks.

[fthorn]

Originally Posted by burritos

So I was speaking with my neighbor at the local ice cream parlor. I casually brought up the subject on when the planned local park for our neighborhood might be eventually built. Personally I don't really care too much since there are already 2 within 1/2 mile from me. She noted that she didn't care one way or another. She did note that if it weren't built, it would leave less of a human "footprint".

Though I agree with her, I didn't verbalize that fact. However, from her last statement though, is it unfair of me to automatically assume that this person is an environmentalist, at least through principal?

I personally know no one that uses that term. And I would not be compelled to think/use such terms as carbon output, footprint, etc.

I'm here (with a Prius) to save fuel expenses. Any other benefit perceived by others they can wrap any way they like.