New Evidence of Antarctic Ice about to break off.

[Rybold]

Originally Posted by chogan2

Serious, Antarctica isn't supposed to warm for another 50 years yet. I think the net ice mass for Antarctica as a whole remains slightly above recent historical levels.

The earth's atmosphere does not just warm and cool. As anyone that has studied physics and thermodynamics knows that heat exchange has to come from somewhere. Geologists have correlated historic periods of global warming to increased volcanic activity, and occur over thousands of years. In 2005, the hottest year on record, did earth experience a surge in volcanic activity? Some might argue that the sun cycles affect the shifts between warm periods and ice ages. Great. Sun cycles don't change this quickly, plus there is no evidence for a hotter sun in 2005. Periods of global cooling occur when ocean currents shift; preventing the mixture of equatorial waters with polar waters. As a result, the thick polar ice extends down and covers Canada and Russia. Other factors, such as sun cycles can also result in cooling, but it takes thousands of years.

If you purchase or view the History Channel DVD "How The Earth Was Made," they provide evidence for every aspect of earth's history since it's beginning. All across North America, giant boulders are found in the middle of flat farming territory. They are out of place. In Central Park in New York City, large surface rock has gashes in it from smaller rocks. To move the large boulders and create those deep gashes would require millions of pounds of force. Neither wind nor water could create such force. But when scientists travel to the poles and study glaciers, they discover that glaciers perform these very functions today. How do we know the last ice age was 10K years ago? Looking at the amount of dirt around those large rocks reveals that they were deposited there 10K years ago. How do we know how old rocks are? Radiometric dating. Did you know there are organisms that have been making rock for the past 4.4 billion years? They still exist today in Shark Bay Australia, and are called stromatolites. Billions of tonnes of the rock they created is found all around the world and dates back to 4.4 billion years ago. In the process of making this rock, they convert CO2 into O2. O2 did not exist in the early earth's climate. Did you know that most meteors collected contain 5% water in their centers? How do we know the earth is 4.5 billion years old? Newton invented the method for determining this age a LONG time ago. More recent modifications have shown that a once molten earth would take 4.5 billion years to cool to it's current state. Radiometric dating of rocks, another unrelated method, also arrives at 4.5 billion years. Watch the DVD - I only mentioned a tenth of what they reveal.

[F8L]

Originally Posted by Rybold

If you purchase or view the History Channel DVD "How The Earth Was Made," they provide evidence for every aspect of earth's history since it's beginning. All across North America, giant boulders are found in the middle of flat farming territory. They are out of place. In Central Park in New York City, large surface rock has gashes in it from smaller rocks. To move the large boulders and create those deep gashes would require millions of pounds of force. Neither wind nor water could create such force. But when scientists travel to the poles and study glaciers, they discover that glaciers perform these very functions today. How do we know the last ice age was 10K years ago? Looking at the amount of dirt around those large rocks reveals that they were deposited there 10K years ago. How do we know how old rocks are? Radiometric dating. Did you know there are organisms that have been making rock for the past 4.4 billion years? They still exist today in Shark Bay Australia, and are called stromatolites. Billions of tonnes of the rock they created is found all around the world and dates back to 4.4 billion years ago. In the process of making this rock, they convert CO2 into O2. O2 did not exist in the early earth's climate. Did you know that most meteors collected contain 5% water in their centers? How do we know the earth is 4.5 billion years old? Newton invented the method for determining this age a LONG time ago. More recent modifications have shown that a once molten earth would take 4.5 billion years to cool to it's current state. Radiometric dating of rocks, another unrelated method, also arrives at 4.5 billion years. Watch the DVD - I only mentioned a tenth of what they reveal.

I like documentaries too. Sometimes you have to be careful with the information they provide but generally speaking most of the ones based on earth sciences are pretty spot on. I have a total of 246 documentaries on the sciences and some history (I actually made a list to keep track of them). Out of those, none of the earth sciences documentaries contradict themselves despite being produced by numerous tv stations.

[PriusSport]

Things of major proportion happen on this planet every so often, based on what we know about its history. Fortunately, the span of human life is tiny compared to the time span for some major events. Those monster volcanic eruptions, for example, which happen every 600,000 years or so, and turn the planet into a dustbowl. And the Ice Ages. You just have to hope you are not around when one of these things happens. That's aside from anything forced by man-made pollution.

[richard schumacher]

"...a Dutch study using 17 years of satellite measurements in western Greenland suggests that the movement associated with the meltwater is not as rapid as had been feared. The acceleration appears to be a transient summer phenomenon, the researchers said, with the yearly movement actually dropping slightly in some places....

...Dr. Alley and other experts said the new study showed that it was unlikely that Greenland’s ice had already become destabilized in ways that could cause a surge in sea levels."

Link.

Yes, it's mildly comforting to know that a dangerous acceleration has not yet started, at least in western Greenland, and that Greenland's ice is not yet destabilized.

[dragonfly]

The baby Antarctic penguins being frozen to death by freak rain storms

Tens of thousands of newly-born penguins are freezing to death as Antarctica is lashed by freak rain storms.

Scientists believe the numbers of Adelie penguins may have fallen by as much as 80 per cent – and, if the downpours continue, the species will be extinct within ten years.
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Temperatures on the Antarctic peninsula have risen by 3C over the past 50 years to an average of -14.7C and rain is now far more common than snow.

[Godiva]

Poor little things. (I *loved* March of the Penguins.)

The lucky ones are shot.

Polar bears are drifting to Iceland on ice flows. Two so far. The first was shot. They were going to try to trap the second but ended up having to shoot it too.

Imagine the polar bears that don't land on Iceland but continue to drift out to sea....to starve or drown.

Maybe we need another film; "Drift of the Polar Bears".

[Jimmie84]

Global Warming is nothing but a FRAUD. It's a hoax.

There has been periods long long ago that it was much hotter than it is now.

The one thing that these brain washed scientists claim is that Carbon is bad and casues this so called Hoaxed Global Warming.

Carbon makes up 74% of our atmosphere. It's a natural thing and man has no big impact on it at all.

[F8L]

Originally Posted by Jimmie84

Global Warming is nothing but a FRAUD. It's a hoax.

There has been periods long long ago that it was much hotter than it is now.

The one thing that these brain washed scientists claim is that Carbon is bad and casues this so called Hoaxed Global Warming.

Carbon makes up 74% of our atmosphere. It's a natural thing and man has no big impact on it at all.

Jimie, we have been over this before. You are not qualified to make this argument. You knowledge in the sciences is woefully lacking yet you continue to come in here to thrown down your $.02 without any scienific evidence to back your opinions. Please do us a favor and supply us with evidence much like Tim Bikes does. I like you but this is kind of rediculous.

BTW, carbon makes up less than .04% of our atmosphere. I think you were refering to nitrogen which is 78% of our atmospheric gas total.

[Jimmie84]

Originally Posted by F8L

Jimie, we have been over this before. You are not qualified to make this argument. You knowledge in the sciences is woefully lacking yet you continue to come in here to thrown down your $.02 without any scienific evidence to back your opinions. Please do us a favor and supply us with evidence much like Tim Bikes does. I like you but this is kind of rediculous.

BTW, carbon makes up less than .04% of our atmosphere. I think you were refering to nitrogen which is 78% of our atmospheric gas total.

Since when does an individual need to be qualified to say that the whole global warming is a swindle?

Sorry F8L, I don't hate you or anybody on this board but I know when millions of Americans are being fed BS.

Everyone knows what the #1 control of our climate is, And that is the Sun.

[Fibb222]

Originally Posted by Jimmie84

Since when does an individual need to be qualified to say that the whole global warming is a swindle?

Sorry F8L, I don't hate you or anybody on this board but I know when millions of Americans are being fed BS.

Everyone knows what the #1 control of our climate is, And that is the Sun.

And the Earth is flat. And is the centre of the universe. Not to mention God created it 6000 years ago.