Global cooling? What steps will Government take?

[patsparks]

Somehow I would more likely bet on F8L's knowledge of climate change than the OP in this thread.

[F8L]

Originally Posted by patsparks

Somehow I would more likely bet on F8L's knowledge of climate change than the OP in this thread.

Thanks for the vote of confidence mate. I'm not trained in climatology though. I have taken a few classes (recently) on weather, geology, oceanography, physical geography, Chemistry and of course botany but that doesn't do much more than help you to understand the basics of climate systems. I do however, have contact with people who do study this sort of thing (Jeff Price is a good example) and I try to study the subject when I can but unfortunately I have not had time since last winter to poke around much beyond ocean acidification information and Henry's Law (At a constant temperature, the amount of a given gas dissolved in a given type and volume of liquid is directly proportional to the partial pressure of that gas in equilibrium with that liquid.).

The point is, I DO NOT as a rule get my information from unreliable sources such as typical news media (owned by corporations who's agenda is to sell stuff) or politically driven talk shows or biostitutes/climostitutes.

[EasyRider]

Originally Posted by F8L

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Why do I have to list my credentials? I am not the one posting garbage found on news outlets as support for my stance.

Well, I thought you might like to toot your own horn again as you did a few months ago in the quote below when you were challenging my assertions in another string.

Originally Posted by F8L

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To save you time searching for my academic background I'll list it for you here:


33yr old student
AAS in Computer Technology
Biology major with special focus in Ecology and Biodiversity (this includes classes on soil and natural resource conservation)
Vice Predident of the Sierra College Environmentally Concerned Organization of Students
Intern with a non-agressive Land Trust (conservation group)
Member of the California Rangeland Conservation Coalition
Volunteer and contract with Dry Creek Conservancy

But I guess you have a little more humility now.



The point I am making is, the scientific community, as shown in history, is not infallible.


I also believe many people are using Global Warming hysteria as a tool to make a lot of money (as hypocritical All Gore dose) and or advance a political or social agenda.

[F8L]

Originally Posted by EasyRider

Well, I thought you might like to toot your own horn again as you did a few months ago in the quote below when you were challenging my assertions in another string.



But I guess you have a little more humility now.

I just didn't feel that you were worth my time is all....

The point I am making is, the scientific community, as shown in history, is not infallible.


I also believe many people are using Global Warming hysteria as a tool to make a lot of money (as hypocritical All Gore dose) and or advance a political or social agenda.

Guess you should spend less time with media and more with the sciences and you'll understand why the basics of greenhouse gas input above what the system is capable of cycling is harmful to a broad range of natural and human infrastructures as well as social constructs. To be sure some are trying to capitalize on the situation, people are greedy as we all know but that does not change the facts nor does it exepmt us from trying to make changes that have huge benefits over sitting on our hands and arguing.

[MegansPrius]

Originally Posted by EasyRider

The point I am making is, the scientific community, as shown in history, is not infallible.

I also believe many people are using Global Warming hysteria as a tool to make a lot of money (as hypocritical All Gore dose) and or advance a political or social agenda.

But you're not even making that point with the Global Cooling argument, as, if you had bothered to read anything in this thread, there never was a scientific consensus regarding it.

If you want to quote scientific history, try continental drift. You'll do better with that one.

And the "scientists are making money" on global warming argument is laughable at a time when Exxon is raking in over $40 billion in profit a year. There's a lot more money in oil than in climate science.

[F8L]

Originally Posted by MegansPrius

If you want to quote scientific history, try continental drift. You'll do better with that one.

Poor Alfred. The guy never lived to see his vindication. How many scientists ever do? Then again, in his own words, the exact mechanism invloved with moving the continents wasn't his problem.

[richard schumacher]

C'mon, Scott, we can't expect the average denier to read and comprehend all that scientific mumbo-jumbo.

[Zythryn]

EasyRider, did you read to post that goes into great length describing the 'global cooling' myth?
Did you read the original science papers that discussed the possibility?
If you are going to argue a point, but ignore the counterpoints when provided your stance appears weak.
Please address MeganPrius post number 7. If you wish to actually have a discussion that is.

[EasyRider]

Originally Posted by MegansPrius

And the "scientists are making money" on global warming argument is laughable at a time when Exxon is raking in over $40 billion in profit a year. There's a lot more money in oil than in climate science.

There is nothing wrong with making money, or profiting on the sale of goods and services. I also do not abject to someone whom earns his own money and spend it as he pleases in a legal manner even when he is wasteful with his own money or luxuries that his earning can afford him.

What totally galls me is when some one like All Gore, Hollywood stars or other wealthy public figures lecture us little people about conserving wile they ride in gas guzzling private jets, S.U.V.s and live in several very large homes that use alot of energy.

I live in a fairly energy efficient small 1'250 foot town home. I have town homes on both side of my unit helping to reduce my energy use low. And my unit is heated by cleaner than oil, Natural Gas. I have a pickup truck that I drive about four thousand miles a year. I'm about to trade it in on a Prius to save more energy and pollute less. My carbon output must be something like one-hundredth that of that what All Gore's carbon out put is.

Barbra Streisand and Robert Redford recently got into the, lecture the little people on energy use act, and told us all to conserve wile they still live in large energy hog homes and ride in private Jets and SUVs.

So its hypocrite All Gore and other wealthy oil aholics individuals that lecture the little people on energy use that I object too. Not a guy who makes a lot of money or profit doing what he or she is good at.

The worst one of all is the guy that is make a fortune on the Global Warming lecturing wile riding in private jets and getting picked up in Chevy Suburban and Lincoln Town Cars to drive him home to his very large energy inefficient home that I abject too most.

Gore home's energy use: 20 times average

All Gore on private jet - Google Video

[hyo silver]

Easy, rider. Focus on the science.