The wait may be a while longer for CO2 answers

[qbee42]

"Carry the units. Carry the units!"

Tom

[jayman]

Hmmmm. Like how NASA routinely declared "the SRB section o-rings will be just FINE in cold weather, no worries ...." KABOOOOOOOM

Or, more recently "that foam falling off during launch can't hurt anything ..." KABOOOOOOM

Again, what the hell, only taxpayer money. They'll eventually build and attempt to launch another one

[FL_Prius_Driver]

Unfortunately, the hard data that would have been provided by the satellite would have probably provided an answer to what is absorbing most of the excess CO2. This question will eventually be answered, but will now take longer. Note that different answers support different theories, so we needed that satellite data to figure out which group sabotaged it.

[Shawn Clark]

Nothing is "absorbing most of the excess CO2"...that's the problem.

[FL_Prius_Driver]

Originally Posted by Shawn Clark

Nothing is "absorbing most of the excess CO2"...that's the problem.

The ocean has to be absorbing some of it, else the pH would not be going down.

[Shawn Clark]

Originally Posted by FL_Prius_Driver

The ocean has to be absorbing some of it, else the pH would not be going down.

Some is not "most", hence the large rise in CO2. The yearly rise is actually pretty close to what I calculated by hand ~15 years ago... The ocean was actually expected to absorb more than it apparently has IIRC, but that has not occurred.

Two decades ago it was hoped by many (including myself) that the planet could deal with the massive excess in various ways. Those hopes have faded as we've learned more about the carbon balance. And CO2 concentrations have continued to rise each year.

[qbee42]

I think it's from soda pop. Every time we open one some of the carbonation fizzes out.

You heard it here first, so when I win my Nobel Prize you can say you were with me at the "AHA!" moment.

Tom

[malorn]

Originally Posted by jayman

Hmmmm. Like how NASA routinely declared "the SRB section o-rings will be just FINE in cold weather, no worries ...." KABOOOOOOOM

Or, more recently "that foam falling off during launch can't hurt anything ..." KABOOOOOOM

Again, what the hell, only taxpayer money. They'll eventually build and attempt to launch another one

Who does Dr James Hansen work for? I wonder how mcuh global warming funding NASA receives a year?

[FL_Prius_Driver]

Originally Posted by Shawn Clark

Some is not "most", hence the large rise in CO2. ......

Agree. What I should have stated is the satellite would have helped resolve most of the "flux mismatchs" in present model. Data is better than models in every case.

[jayman]

Originally Posted by malorn

Who does Dr James Hansen work for? I wonder how mcuh global warming funding NASA receives a year?

The problem with government agencies is that true competency is pretty far down on the list. Ass kissing is pretty much at the top of the list

The same culture exists in large, senile corporations that don't have a hope in hell of surviving the next year