| | ||||||
| This is a discussion on Arctic Sea Ice Remains on Downward Trend within the Environmental Discussion forums, part of the PriusChat Forums category; "Despite a slight recovery in summer Arctic sea ice in 2009 from record-setting low years in 2007 and 2008, the ... |
Arctic Sea Ice Remains on Downward Trend
![]() |
| | LinkBack | Thread Tools |
| | #1 |
| Destination: Eschaton Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: United States
Posts: 5,515
My Car: 2004 Prius Model: N/A Package: #6 Thanks: 100
Thanked 93 Times in 66 Posts
Friends: 0 | "Despite a slight recovery in summer Arctic sea ice in 2009 from record-setting low years in 2007 and 2008, the sea ice extent remains significantly below previous years and remains on a trend leading toward ice-free Arctic summers, according to the University of Colorado at Boulder’s National Snow and Ice Data Center. (Earlier post.)" Summary at Green Car Congress: Despite a Slight Recovery in 2009, Arctic Sea Ice Remains on Downward Trend The National Snow and Ice Data Center has an excellent FAQ at Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis: Questions about Arctic sea ice For those who confuse ice area with ice volume: "Satellite measurements from NASA show that in 2008, Arctic sea ice was thinner than 2007, and likely reached a record low volume. In the spring of 2009, Arctic sea ice was even thinner than in 2008."
__________________ Copyright (C) 2009. All rights reserved. Last edited by richard schumacher; 10-08-2009 at 09:57 AM. |
| | |
| | #2 |
| Management Scientist Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Denver Metro
Posts: 655
My Car: 2006 Prius Model: N/A Package: #2 Thanks: 91
Thanked 43 Times in 36 Posts
Friends: 5 | A very good post, especially the information about sea ice volume vs coverage (volume being the real measure of interest). I've been trying to get a good friend wo is chair of the Geosciences department at Fort Hays State University to buy a Prius. His PhD disertation was on sea ice in Baffin Bay, and he keeps me up on ocean temperature and ice volume news. |
| | |
| | #3 |
| Collecting Data on Nature Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA.
Posts: 5,539
My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: #4 Thanks: 22
Thanked 198 Times in 146 Posts
Friends: 35 | Sea ice coverage is very important to krill recruitment though. Since krill serves as a base, or near base, for the oceanic energy web I would say coverage is equally important to volume unless we are just talking about albedo effect. |
| | |
| | #4 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: WA
Posts: 1,925
My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: #5 Thanks: 14
Thanked 64 Times in 37 Posts
Friends: 0 | And at the other pole, sea ice area remains above normal levels. In fact, the Antarctic ice melt during the summer (October-January) of 2008-2009 was the lowest ever recorded in the satellite history. Last edited by TimBikes; 10-16-2009 at 02:31 PM. |
| | |
| | #5 |
| Destination: Eschaton Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: United States
Posts: 5,515
My Car: 2004 Prius Model: N/A Package: #6 Thanks: 100
Thanked 93 Times in 66 Posts
Friends: 0 | And again: area is not volume. The article abstract you cite states (*emphasis mine*): "Our results suggest that *enhanced snowmelt* is likely to occur if recent positive summer SAM trends subside in conjunction with the projected recovery of stratospheric ozone levels, with subsequent impacts on ice sheet mass balance and sea level trends." |
| | |
| | #6 |
| Management Scientist Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Denver Metro
Posts: 655
My Car: 2006 Prius Model: N/A Package: #2 Thanks: 91
Thanked 43 Times in 36 Posts
Friends: 5 | True, and I hadn't considered that. And considering albedo, to some extent global warming should be self-increasing since reduced ice/snow coverage reduces albedo, thus increasing energy absorbtion (e.g., temperature). It's theorized the opposite is true: increase snow coverage and cloud coverage to a certain point and an ice age onset is self-sustaining due to increased albedo. |
| | |
| | #7 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: WA
Posts: 1,925
My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: #5 Thanks: 14
Thanked 64 Times in 37 Posts
Friends: 0 | |
| | |
| | #8 | ||
| Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 784
My Car: 2008 Prius Model: Package: #2 Thanks: 129
Thanked 48 Times in 41 Posts
Friends: 1 | Quote:
Quote:
| ||
| | |
| | #9 | |
| Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: WA
Posts: 1,925
My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: #5 Thanks: 14
Thanked 64 Times in 37 Posts
Friends: 0 | Quote:
I guess we'll have to check back in a few years and see. Last edited by TimBikes; 10-16-2009 at 11:43 PM. | |
| | |
![]() |
| Tags |
| arctic, sea ice area, sea ice volume |
Similar Threads | ||||
| Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
| Riding through the remains of the worst nuclear accident on earth... | amm0bob | Fred's House of Pancakes | 12 | 05-07-2009 01:49 PM |
| Matte finishes are the new trend | Tideland Prius | Fred's House of Pancakes | 2 | 02-07-2008 07:43 PM |
| Prius remains fastest-turning model of all cars sold in US | PaPrius | Prius and Hybrid News | 2 | 05-26-2005 11:56 PM |
| Scary Trend Emerging!! | DaveinOlyWA | Gen II Prius Fuel Economy | 14 | 03-06-2005 10:36 PM |
| Motor Trend Questionnaire | seeh2o | Gen II Prius Main Forum | 2 | 04-07-2004 09:48 PM |
| Bookmarks |
« Previous Thread
|
Next Thread »
| Thread Tools | |
| |














