Poor man's flush counter

[fuzzy1]

Originally Posted by patsparks

... I'm not sure I get the American toilets, they hold so much water in the bowl, it's like yanks are a bad shot or something, and when they flush they do it so casually where an Aussie loo flushes with a whoosh! ...

There are many different American toilet designs. That quiet swirl was a common style of old water hogs, not legally for sale since the early 1990s. But since then, many water hogs have been smuggled in from Canada.

We also have plenty of designs, both old and new, that go whoosh!

The large quantity of water in the bowl is to cover the big smelly loads that helped produce our big fat arses.

[Shawn Clark]

Originally Posted by patsparks

My questions are,
1/ If you find your toilet is being flushed XX number of times what will you do to change that?

Didn't say I was going to change it. What I am doing is measuring it so that I know how much is coming from the source.

2/ If there is nothing going to be done with the data why collect it?

It's called rationalizing the model. Untested assumptions aren't worth much. I've got a pretty good overall balance, and I am checking some assumptions for various components. Having good numbers provides a sound basis for deciding what makes sense in the future.

I guess you might look into a duel flush cistern or put a house brick in the tank to reduce the volume of water. I have 2 duel flush toilets and have adjusted the water level to the minimum.

Why would I do that? I've got 1.28 gpf high efficiency toilets now. I rejected the complications of a 1.6/0.8 dual flush in favor of these. With two females in the household I figured the 0.8 wouldn't get much use anyway.

If I used a brick I would have to dangle the brick in the top half of the tank for it to reduce the flush volume in these (since the lower half remains.) If these flush perfectly for 6 months to a year, then I might reduce the water level a notch, but it is way too early for that.

I'm not sure I get the American toilets, they hold so much water in the bowl, it's like yanks are a bad shot or something, and when they flush they do it so casually where an Aussie loo flushes with a whoosh!

Perhaps you should actually see a proper U.S. toilet sometime. My new Totos (from Georgia) have nice wide waterspots about 4x the area of the Australian Caromas...yet with a small overall water volume because they are shallow up until the trap. The Totos have a nice short positive flush...way shorter and cleaner than what you posted. My old toilets had a waterspot like those Australian toilets. Dirty awful things they were.

What whoosh? It's more like a continuous roar. Here is a whoosh (no I'm not the videographer)

YouTube - My Parents new Toilet

YouTube - My Parents new Toilet

Apparently Aussies like the smell of their own feces. What I learned from my work in Southeast Asia was that it is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better to have it covered by some water.

I was going to make a video of an Aussie dunny flushing but I found one for your enjoyment.
YouTube- 2 Toilets At Glenelg Oval
Please note, it doesn't swirl!

My Toto's don't swirl either.

You are proud of those contraptions? They look horribly wasteful and messy--about like a 3 gallon flush. They ran forever compared to my Totos. It looks like they are spraying contaminated water everywhere! No wonder folks who have bought them here complain about the mess from the Caromas! Imagine a courtesy flush seated on one of those. Is that what you call an outback bidet?

And here, an observation about Australians and toilets

YouTube - Australian Toilet Flushing - TRUTH EXPOSED!

YouTube - Australian Toilet Flushing - TRUTH EXPOSED!

Listen to about 1:10 for the answer.

[Shawn Clark]

Here's a view of one of the brand new Aussie toilets flushing with blue water in it. Problem with Caroma Dual Flush Toilet Nothing like having toilet water and crap splashed all over the seat and bathroom! "Uh, Honey, are you sure you don't want me to leave the seat up for you?"

[patsparks]

Shawn, no I am not proud of the toilets I found the video of, they are 40 years or more old. What I was getting at is the volume of water in the bowl is less. I don't want to get into a pissing contest about toilets here, I was just surprised that the toilets in the US are so different to the ones here. By the way, all the poo goes under water in an aussie dunny.


4.5 and 3 litre flush and wash your hands in the water that will be used in that flush.
I guess not suited to a cold climate but an example of inovation to save water.
savewater.com.au - Caroma Profile™ Toilet Suite with Integrated Hand Basin

BTW, love the video you posted, funny!!

[fuzzy1]

... By the way, all the poo goes under water in an aussie dunny.

Do your aussie dunnies have a special surface coating to ensure that all the stuff that initially misses the water target slides down into the target? In my household, different users have different aim points, and that target is not large enough to cover all the aims.

[patsparks]

Never had an issue. The sides are quite steep but it always seems to go in the water for me anyway.
I have heard of people who sit on the toilet backward to deliberately make a mess, but they are few and far between.
Urban Dictionary: reverse kanga

PS, I am not about to post a picture to illustrate.

[jayman]

Originally Posted by Shawn Clark

With two females in the household I figured the 0.8 wouldn't get much use anyway.

You have my sympathy ....

Originally Posted by patsparks

I am not about to post a picture to illustrate.

I was actually looking forward to a photo or two ...

[Shawn Clark]

Originally Posted by patsparks

By the way, all the poo goes under water in an aussie dunny.

That's not what the Caroma users in the states are reporting.

A bit of diarrhea or some flatulence with the poo and there is no way it will all hit that tiny water spot, even with precision bombing. My old toilets had a waterspot almost exactly the size of the Caroma and this was a major issue. I'm glad to be rid of them. However, the very large trap on the Caroma might have held all of the contents underwater that reached the splash point wheras the small trap in the Gerber could not.

I considered the Caromas briefly until I read reviews. The real killer was the splashing back out of the bowl.

I don't doubt that they flush extremely well with the large trapway. However, flush capacity is only one of the requirements.

[hyo silver]

Originally Posted by patsparks

...I don't want to get into a pissing contest about toilets here...

Very appropriate choice of words, sir.

...I have heard of people who sit on the toilet backward to deliberately make a mess, but they are few and far between.
Urban Dictionary: reverse kanga...

Of course, this is known as a...wait for it...kanga-loo.

[hill]

Originally Posted by TonyPSchaefer

I"m glad you worked out the pedometer because my webcam idea probably wouldn't have worked anyway.

Back before web cams ... maybe that's what THIS guy was 'only' DOing ... pun intended.

http://www.poopreport.com/BMnewswire/1357.html



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