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My Car: 2006 Prius Package: Base Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0 | I've seen the movie but, haven't read the book. The movie is highly biased against GM for destroying the EV1s. GM had to rent the cars because not many people would buy them at 50K. They were loosing millions on the EV1 program. What should a company do with a product that looses money and has no chance of ever making money--get rid of it. That's what they did. The market did not generate the demand for the electric car at that time; the CARB regulation requiring 10% of cars sold in CA to have zero emission required the car manufacturers to make EV cars. The car companies got together and had the regulation canceled. The EVs of the nineties disappeared. In the next 10-20 years there will be a gigantic change in the auto market place caused by the rising fuel prices and the US car companies are going to miss the boat. There are 3 new EVs being sold--Tesla, Smart and Think--all being built outside the US. |
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My Car: 2005 Prius Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 2 | Quote:
so there was no need to get rid of them! | |
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| Ruler of Omicron Persei 8 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Far-North Chicagoland
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My Car: 2004 Prius Package: #9 Nominated 4 Times in 2 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 13 | Quote:
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| Cat Lovers Against the Bomb Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Spokane, WA
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My Car: 2004 Prius Package: #6 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0 | Quote:
Where the above argument is flawed is that we are talking about cars that were already on the road, being driven by people who were willing to pay additional money to keep them and to sign away any right to warranty or service, and which were worth nothing to GM. In fact, GM spent additional money to recall and crush them, when it could have reduced its losses by letting the leasees keep the cars. This was clearly not a case of GM cutting its losses. This was GM taking extraordinary action, at great additional cost, to get electric cars out of the public sight.
__________________ Daniel ---------------------- Primary car: Zap Xebra SD: 100% electric car. 1.9 cents per mile, using electrons generated from water power. (The Prius is my gas guzzler, used when I have to travel farther than 35 miles in a day.) "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." -- Emma Goldman "Anyone who has ever looked into the glazed eyes of a soldier dying on the battlefield will think long and hard before starting a war." -- Otto von Bismarck | |
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My Car: 2008 Prius Package: #2 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 6 | I also check eBay to see the Rav4 EV's, how much they go for, etc. I wish they still made them, they seem to be the best of all worlds. Ugh! |
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My Car: 2008 Prius Package: #2 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0 | GM and the other American car companies are in bed with the oil companies--if you believe that, then what they do makes sense. The irony, of course, is the current explosion in oil prices hurts the car companies and helps the oil companies. This is more evidence that oil prices right now are caused by overspeculation--not caused by the oil companies--though they benefit. |
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| Cat Lovers Against the Bomb Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Spokane, WA
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My Car: 2004 Prius Package: #6 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0 | Quote:
They are not "in bed with" each other. They ARE each other. The auto makers and the oil companies are, for all practical purposes, the SAME companies. You cannot "conspire" with yourself! But the rising cost of oil will drive a return to EVs. The American auto makers may choose to ignore the writing on the wall and go out of business. But gasoline is on its last legs. Even our lovely Priuses will be obsolete soon. | |
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