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Old 05-16-2009, 10:55 AM   #21
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daniel. if you cant loosen to lugs, get a 12 volt air hammer!!

it does all the work for you. you only need to lift the tire into place. i got one simply because my SO cant change the tire either. she could never get the lugs loosened. i bought a kit that includes a tire compressor (slow but MUCH better than nothing) along with the air hammer and 5 lug sizes.

i do 4 wheel tire rotations. have 2 floor jacks. with the air hammer, i can rotate all 4 tires in 15 mins without breaking a sweat.


as far as range, i think you will be ok. you mentioned a gear box? if so, that will greatly improve your performance on the freeway and help to overcome the additional air drag.

but will say that i would only expect 90 to 95 miles on a 28 KWH pack and that is going to 20% SOC....but some Li Chemistries are expected to cycle that deep with minimal impact to long term performance...but once again i am using direct drive #'s

remember the tesla originally had 2 gears and its simply because gearing can greatly reduce power consumption at higher speeds.

either way, i think you will be happy, although for me, i would have to have 110, even if it took 12 hours to charge. my work only has that and around here we there is currently no public charging spots that offer anything but 110.

definitely keep us posted on your performance and usage. you do have a Kill-a-watt or something ?
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Old 05-16-2009, 01:39 PM   #22
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The air wrench sounds like a good idea, but I'll probably stick with the cell phone and a wrecker. My back hurts today, just from moving the spare tire from the back seat to the front, and back again.

If I get 90 miles to 20% SoC it will be a little less than they promised me, but not enough less to raise a fuss over. That would get me to Coeur d'Alene and back, with 40 miles left over. Or C d'A plus 20 miles of giving folks rides, and home with 20 miles to spare and still have my 20% reserve. We'll see. Paul did tell me that the motor is stiff when new, and will loosen up with use.

The car could have been built with a 110-volt charger. It would probably take about 18 hours to recharge from empty. Mine should take about 4 or 5 hours. One of the reasons I requested 125 miles was so that I would never have to charge the car away from home or during the day. I figured I'd never want to drive over 100 miles in one day, and probably never more than 75, unless I was on a road trip, and then I'd need a 400-mile range or drive the stinker. If I get less than 75 miles with a 20% reserve I'll be complaining.

My Kill-a-Watt meter is 110 volt and only goes up to 15 amps. I have nothing for this car. However, some time probably next week the electrician is going to come over and put a meter on it and measure the amperage draw. Actually, it's possible that my e-meter (in the car) may show charging amperage at the battery pack (not into the chargers). While driving it shows amperage draw, total amp-hours consumed since last re-set, percent SoC based on how many amp-hours you tell it you have and its measurement of usage, and maybe other related stuff. I don't know if it works in reverse during charging.
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VERY preliminary numbers suggest a range of 65 miles to dead empty, or 52 miles to 20% SoC, which is supposed to be safe for these batteries. That is very disappointing. At 52 miles safe range this car would not do what I need it to do. On Tuesday I'll be able to make some more reliable tests, since the charging cable should come Monday and I'll be able to charge over night.
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Daniel,
Congrats on the cool ride.Definite chick magnet.
I would get "run flat" tires to solve the spare problem.
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I'm afraid run-flat tires would cut 50% off my range. The car may be a chick magnet, but I'm a chick repellent.
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...It would probably be a chick magnet for anyone else. But they turn and run when they see me. Sigh!...
Perhaps the electrician should check the polarity...sounds like the magnet is wired to repel instead of attract.
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VERY preliminary numbers suggest a range of 65 miles to dead empty, or 52 miles to 20% SoC, which is supposed to be safe for these batteries. That is very disappointing. At 52 miles safe range this car would not do what I need it to do. On Tuesday I'll be able to make some more reliable tests, since the charging cable should come Monday and I'll be able to charge over night.
Daniel, how's the range now that it's Monday / long charge? ... or is the question premature?
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My hope is that he's out crusin' for chicks and doesn't have time for us little people today.
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The charging cable arrived by UPS this afternoon. The car is plugged in. It will be all charged up by midnight, though I won't drive it until after exercise tomorrow. Exercise is more important than even an EV. Now, if that pretty check-out girl at the grocery store waggled her finger at me, I'd skip the exercise, but not for anything less, and she's probably married. She looks a lot like Sandra Bullock. I'm more likely to win the lottery without buying a ticket than to get an invitation from that girl. So exercise is still on the schedule for tomorrow.
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too bad you cant accurately track the electrons going in, but any stats you have is more than welcomed
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