Zenn again!!

[DaveinOlyWA]

ZENN Motors Requests DOE Grant to Build US-based EEStor-Powered Electric Car Facility - AllCarsElectric.com

and the beat goes on...

vaporware... ya, vapor seems to be getting thicker especially now that its been revealed the eestor has had a working prototype for 7 years. they just havent been able to figure out how to make another one, that is they havent figured out, yet...

but having this facility based in SE Michigan kinda implies my assertion 3 months ago that Zenn with partner with GM... scary that if true, that GM will have the best EV option (by default)...

guess i will have to buy one, pull the cap out of the gm and find someone who can mate it up with my Pri

[Fibb222]

Originally Posted by DaveinOlyWA

ZENN Motors Requests DOE Grant to Build US-based EEStor-Powered Electric Car Facility - AllCarsElectric.com

and the beat goes on...

vaporware... ya, vapor seems to be getting thicker especially now that its been revealed the eestor has had a working prototype for 7 years. they just havent been able to figure out how to make another one, that is they havent figured out, yet...

but having this facility based in SE Michigan kinda implies my assertion 3 months ago that Zenn with partner with GM... scary that if true, that GM will have the best EV option (by default)...

guess i will have to buy one, pull the cap out of the gm and find someone who can mate it up with my Pri

Hi Dave,

Do you spend any time at EEStory.com? I used to read PriusChat everyday, but rarely do now. I'm all about reading threads at EEStory. Totally addicted. As this fascinating story unfolds I get more and more impressed with the likelihood that the EESUs exist and will be revealed soon. Today's news that senators, congressmen and Michigan's governor are backing Zenn's application for DOE funding is a really positive endorsement that the product exists and is about to be unveiled in the next while.

The electric storage technology that I saw at EEStor can dramatically change the
entire automotive industry and our overall economy when placed in mass
product. I'm looking forward to great things in the very near future
from this company." - U.S. Rep. John Carter (R-TX31)

At this point it is impossible that this thing is just a scam.

BTW I read dozens of posts at EEStory everyday and have been for months. I never heard the 7 year thing before. IMHO that's clearly not accurate.

I believe you own ZNN stock. Enjoy the ride. Tomorrow should be interesting after the 12% gain today. Do you happen to have a price in mind where you would lighten up? I personally would be tempted to sell some at $30 if it ever gets that high.

But given that this stock might eventually go to $1000 per share (with splits) that might not be the smartest move.

To all that read this: I am not trying to pump the stock. I am not a shill for the EEStory site. But I desperately want EESUs to exist and kick the crap out of the ICE. I want to see its many possible applications completely transform our world - the sustainability of our economy, our environmental health, standard of living and pursuit of peace. Everyone cross there fingers that this thing is real. If it is, we are in for some seriously exciting times.

said the atheist.

[DaveinOlyWA]

Fibb you do realize its now fairly common knowledge (well in some circles anyway) that Zenn has had a working prototype for nearly 7 years now right? that prototype is the reason they agreed to finance eestor in the first place

as far as eestory.com,

umm, nope, guess i dont. website 404'd me


some other places, (the 7 year thing was an interview [ i "thought" i posted here, but being active on EV, hybrid, solar and wind forums, sometimes i dont "think" very clearly] by Clifford who talked about his excitement back when the eesu was delivered. back then, gas was so cheap (around $1.50) that the EV need was not paramount. GCC was still unknown, etc.


but what the interview basically revealed, was no... Zenn did not invest all their money on a promise or a drawing. most of the pointers to info is from the my online investor. having stock means they search out news articles for me. a link that is currently looking at recent developments

http://bariumtitanate.blogspot.com/


**edit**

as far as the stock thing. i have not long term plans with anything as volatile. right now, i am almost up to the point where i was last month. but the entire market is going up (except for the other 3 energy stocks i have invested in!!)

i say i will retire on the stock in 3 years,( but i am still at my day job!!) and as far as pricing, i will do what i did when i worked at intel and their stock was going crazy. wait for a split, transfer 20% of the split shares into bonds. except, i think i will wait for a couple splits first.

but what it boils down to, is bought Zenn stock on a whim, investigated the company, was lucky enough to have the entire market tank. so i bought more stock (i have stock i bought in Zenn that is just now more than i paid for it.) at a much much lower price.

right now, the stock would have to drop more than 75% for me to be back to break even.

but as soon as a highway capable EV comes out, be it with an (actually i believe most will have 2) EESU or whatever, i will probably divest enough (if i have enough) to get one without disturbing my other investments

[DaveinOlyWA]

stock update;

market has been open for less than an hour. stock is already up another 5%

[DaveinOlyWA]

part of the excitement i have is a blog i read on the "worthiness" of investing in Zenn stock to take advantage of eestor success (neither eestor or its major investment partner K-P are publicly traded)

read the part about semi conversion carefully. his assumptions as to the changes in manufacturing dynamics are simple, easy to understand but still very thought provoking. EESU's on big rigs is where the US would benefit greatly. an area i had only briefly thought about, but did not know enough to fully understand the impact.

How to Invest in EEStor or what is Zenn Motor Company Stock worth? - EEStor Ultracapacitors: Battery Revolution begins with Electric Cars?

[Fibb222]

Hi Dave,

Yes I believe Dick clearly had some prototypes for years now but what I was taking exception was this line from your post "they just havent been able to figure out how to make another one, that is they havent figured out, yet..."

I believe that statement to be false. "Making another one" was never the challenge. Making the production line scalable, modular and completely ready to be easily duplicated was the challenge of the last several years.

The delays were likely for things like: improving and product, allowing lockheed martin to secure the tech for military applications, and generally to be fully prepared to manufacture the EESUs on a massive scale once the product is revealed.

All these things take time. But it looks like that the era of EEStor stealth is coming to an end and the reveal could happen in the next few months.

Sorry I wasn't more clear about the address for EEStory.

Here it is:

http://theeestory.com/ . By the way, http://bariumtitanate.blogspot.com/ is run by the same guy as EEStory.

You will really enjoy the site if you haven't been there already. It's a great resource for understanding this story.

[DaveinOlyWA]

Originally Posted by Fibb222

Hi Dave,

Yes I believe Dick clearly had some prototypes for years now but what I was taking exception was this line from your post "they just havent been able to figure out how to make another one, that is they havent figured out, yet..."

I believe that statement to be false. "Making another one" was never the challenge. Making the production line scalable, modular and completely ready to be easily duplicated was the challenge of the last several years.

The delays were likely for things like: improving and product, allowing lockheed martin to secure the tech for military applications, and generally to be fully prepared to manufacture the EESUs on a massive scale once the product is revealed.

All these things take time. But it looks like that the era of EEStor stealth is coming to an end and the reveal could happen in the next few months.

Sorry I wasn't more clear about the address for EEStory.

Here it is:

TheEEStory.com: News, Reviews and Discussion of EEStor Inc. . By the way, EEStor Ultracapacitors: Battery Revolution begins with Electric Cars? is run by the same guy as EEStory.

You will really enjoy the site if you haven't been there already. It's a great resource for understanding this story.

sorry about the confusion. actually you actually restated what i had intended to say.

also, hear the latest rumor?? a soldier in Iraq was spotted with "an electronic device" some say its a EESU which now allows powering of communications, data access and GPS functions (why use eyes when satellites can tell you where the enemy is??) is "reportedly" 75% lighter. takes charge time from 8-12 hours to days?

like i said... all rumors

[Fibb222]

Another important blog post:

Jacob Securities Inc. visits EEStor Production Facility - EEStor Ultracapacitors: Battery Revolution begins with Electric Cars?

[DaveinOlyWA]

Originally Posted by Fibb222

Another important blog post:

Jacob Securities Inc. visits EEStor Production Facility - EEStor Ultracapacitors: Battery Revolution begins with Electric Cars?

interesting article, i have seen it. what is your thoughts on K-P's actions? (or inactions) it has been reported (unverified) that K-P declined their investment option when permitivity results were verified allowing Zenn a bigger share.

now, there is a NDA with K-P which could mean that they did invest but werent willing to disclose that info. if that was the case, why was Zenn allowed to invest a bigger share? or is the larger amount simply due to inflation or other unforeseen costs??

unlike Zenn, the other investors have not told us how much they invested or if they provided any additional investment at all

[Fibb222]

I'm not concerned with KP not upping their stake at that time.

I'm sure these threads cover the subject nicely....

TheEEStory.com: KP Investment in EESTOR

TheEEStory.com: Why KP did not buy EESTOR Common along with Zenn