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Old 02-09-2006, 11:22 PM   #1
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Not sure if you guys are intrested but Blue-Ray is here

http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=1...ainmentAndMedia


http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060208-6136.html
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Old 02-09-2006, 11:46 PM   #2
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oh great... that's all i need... another media format...well, when it gets down to $150... im in
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Old 02-10-2006, 12:13 AM   #3
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Not 1 but 2 new formats don't forget HD-DVD. I'm afraid they will both be availible to confuse the public. Just like DVD-Audio VS. Super CD then there's VHS, S-VHS, digital VHS and VHS-C, 8 millimeter, Hi-8, Super 8 and digital 8. And of course let's not forget the biggest confusions still to this day...

DVD-R
DVD+R
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DVD DL

I have to deal with all this and many more every day.

What kills me the most is that digital Betacam stock adds a few extra minutes to all the tape lengths compared to Beta SP so if I have to dub a show from DBC to Beta SP and it runs over 90 min. I have to break it into 2 parts because they don't make Beta SP longer than 90 min.

I still think bare disks are stupid. Almost every DVD or CD I get from clients are scratched and have layers of fingerprints and the ocasional goop from food or I don't want to know!
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Old 02-10-2006, 12:34 AM   #4
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You know, I'm having a difficult time already just trying to figure out the differences between plasma, LCD, projection or no projection, HD, HD ready, HD compatible, EHD, etc., etc.
Now throw in HD boxes, Bose theater systems, cable boxes and the every popular remote control for each and every system component, well, I'm thinking that good ol' analog 'taint so bad at all.
Pass the popcorn please.
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Old 02-10-2006, 01:56 AM   #5
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You know, I'm having a difficult time already just trying to figure out the differences between plasma, LCD, projection or no projection, HD, HD ready, HD compatible, EHD, etc., etc.
Now throw in HD boxes, Bose theater systems, cable boxes and the every popular remote control for each and every system component, well, I'm thinking that good ol' analog 'taint so bad at all.
Pass the popcorn please.
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When I set up my DLP projector I was perplexed by the digital connection. The DVI and HDMI cables are expensive and I didn't want to have to keep returning the wrong item back to the store. I wanted the best I could get but had to learn what HDMI was then I just bought a Mac G5 with 1 DVI and 1 ADC dual-head monitor out. So I had to get an adapter from ADC to VGA for $25.00. So much stuff.

It's no wonder my parents and grandparents are having so much trouble with thier stuff. It's all a game to make tech companies more money and that's all. Think about all those people who buy the wrong adapter or cable and then forget to return it and they just waisted money for no reason other than not understanding something that's so similar to something else. I can't even tell you how many times I've asked a clerk a question and they say I don't even know what that is.

I recently took a moment to think about how much technology I use every day and if it's helping me or not. My conclusion is that it would be a much more peacful life if I just went to work (for the man), then home to wife and kids, then sleep. All the while, oblivious to cell phones, computers, and everything else I mess with. What if I just hired someone to fix stuff? Hmm, but I love gadgets!
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supposedly the new Blue-Ray players will down convert the resolution via analog cables. So if your current LCD or DLP projector doesn't have HDMI you will need a new projector that comes with HDMI port.
That's going to piss off many current owners.

From the storage perspective I am for Blue-Ray, forget about HD-DVD
Not to mention that currently there are only a few production companies that can utilize the full capacity of the current DVD.
And there is so much space left after mastering a DVD with a terrible non progressive transfer and full of compression artifacts.

So, we sill see a production company issuing a Blue-Ray of 50GB or 30GB capacity but only using 9GB of storage space. The remaining 41GB will be unused. Unless they will have so much for extras but I wonder what. 5 other versions of the same feature tweaked by different colorists?
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I have a high definition TV and HD DVD player and the picture is really good but not the HUGE improvement over nonHD that everyone was always claiming it to be. Blue Ray is supposed to be better but I have a feeling that the competing technologies aren't any better to the average viewer. I'll check out Blue Ray when I get around to it but I just don't know if it's worth it. Especially since I already have a couple hundred DVDs
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I have a high definition TV and HD DVD player ..
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What native resolution are you watching ? That would be the lesser of the disc, player, or monitor.
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What native resolution are you watching ? That would be the lesser of the disc, player, or monitor.
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16:9 (1080i) on DVDs that are capable of it. The HD DVD player and the TV automatically adjust the resolution based on the capability of the DVD. I always get the widescreen DVD when they produce them (not all movies are released on widescreen) You can have an HD set but without an HD DVD player, you don't get the full benefit of HD. The picture is better than nonHD but, as I said, it's not THAT great.
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I have a high definition TV and HD DVD player and the picture is really good but not the HUGE improvement over nonHD that everyone was always claiming it to be.  Blue Ray is supposed to be better but I have a feeling that the competing technologies aren't any better to the average viewer.  I'll check out Blue Ray when I get around to it but I just don't know if it's worth it.  Especially since I already have a couple hundred DVDs 
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that's true, the difference is pretty miniscule. A lot of people use an upscaler for regular DVDs, and the results are pretty satisfactory. I personally have DVD player with a build in upscaler and it's not perfect but pretty close to HD.
The whole HD issue should really be focused on the quality of the available displays as there are not that many and they are still very pricey.
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