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Old 06-19-2006, 07:14 PM   #1
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As a parent do you feel you have the right to discipline your child? Or do you let them run their own lives after the age of six?

I have read that parents should not discipline their children but correct them in a loving manner and be their best friend. and to let them be responsible for themselves and their own actions??

Seems most parents want someone else to discipline their children ..
We receive calls from parents wanting an officer to come out and make their child go to school be cause they don't want to go .

The best two/ saddest two I've heard of yet :
1. a mother called 911 because her child refused to eat their vegatables..
2. a mother and father called because the child wouldn't take a bath when told to..

Whats america coming to when parents are relying on others to raise their children?????

whats your idea of proper parenting????
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Old 06-19-2006, 07:26 PM   #2
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some people need desceplin in adulthood, I think if the balance of stirctness and understanding is met, the child will be fine.
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Old 06-19-2006, 07:43 PM   #3
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why are parents letting kids make the rules? that's what i wanna know.
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Old 06-19-2006, 08:47 PM   #4
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galaxee @ Jun 19 2006, 07:43 PM) [snapback]273678[/snapback]</div>
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why are parents letting kids make the rules? that's what i wanna know.
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Good question!

I will give you a few more examples:

Parents call the police when:

*Kids don't eat thier dinner.
*kids wont bathe.
*kids wont listen or talk back.
*kids threaten to hit their parents.
*Kids go to thier freinds houses and dont come home on time, thus they call them in as missing. (this ties up multiple units looking for the child if they are not at the freinds house.

I was shocked to hear a 9 year old tell his mother not to touch him or he would tell his teacher and they would report the parents to DCF (department of children & families) for abuse... the poor mom was so embarrassed (I felt sorry for her) she looked at me and I told her I didn't see anything.. but she just led him away to her car saying he was in time out when they got home..

If I'd done that as a kid my mom would have told me I was going to get a spanking then explain why I was getting spanked then spank my bottom with her hand & then after she would finnish tell me she loved me and that she didnt like to spank me but if I did something wrong I would be punished for it. . ..
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Old 06-19-2006, 09:00 PM   #5
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(priusguy04 @ Jun 19 2006, 08:47 PM) [snapback]273735[/snapback]</div>
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Good question!

I will give you a few more examples:

Parents call the police when:

*Kids don't eat thier dinner.
*kids wont bathe.
*kids wont listen or talk back.
*kids threaten to hit their parents.
*Kids go to thier freinds houses and dont come home on time, thus they call them in as missing. (this ties up multiple units looking for the child if they are not at the freinds house.
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seriously???

- so go hungry, see if i care.
- don't come crying home to me when the kids at school say you smell funny.
- wanna talk back? do it while you're mowing the lawn so i can't hear you
- i suggest you learn how to calm down because assault will put you in jail (or, probably more effectively, do you really want to end up like grandma's husband?)
- guess you're not going back to that friend's house again, are you?

how hard is that?
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Old 06-19-2006, 09:02 PM   #6
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I think children do need discipline. They have to realise that rules are meant to be followed, not broken. If not, we're just going to have a new generation of bullies, who turn into thugs and well, the world's not gonna be a happier place.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galaxee @ Jun 19 2006, 09:00 PM) [snapback]273743[/snapback]</div>
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seriously???

- so go hungry, see if i care.
- don't come crying home to me when the kids at school say you smell funny.
- wanna talk back? do it while you're mowing the lawn so i can't hear you
- i suggest you learn how to calm down because assault will put you in jail (or, probably more effectively, do you really want to end up like grandma's husband?)
- guess you're not going back to that friend's house again, are you?

how hard is that?
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You just wouldn't believe what calls we get regarding children...

I know of a single mother who grounds her 12 year old son to his room when hes bad... did I say he has an xbox, tv, computer & his own phone line in his room? Also he sneaks out of his room she then calls him in as missing and the mother never gets up from the couch.......

I responded to a burglary over with to a residence, 17 year old girl locked her bedroom door and her mother opened the door with a butter knife to check her room for drugs. I couldnt believe the girl wanted to press charges on her mother ..... Lets just say the mother did not get charged....

I am truely amazed at what is seen day to day... People wonder why police officers seem Jaded...
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Old 06-19-2006, 10:45 PM   #8
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galaxee @ Jun 19 2006, 07:43 PM) [snapback]273678[/snapback]</div>
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why are parents letting kids make the rules? that's what i wanna know.
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Because there is a large loud group that says we should never physically discipline our children and the best parenting is to "negotiate" with your children.

Examples given are common in our jurisdiction as well. Children should be punished in a manner that is effective for that child, including physically. Short of permanent marks or serious physical harm (OR PERMANENT emotinal injury)...parents should be left alone to raise as needed.

I am VERY leery of restrictions on parental discipline. I know abuse when i see it....and I don't see a lot in disciplinary issues.
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Old 06-20-2006, 06:23 AM   #9
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Schmika @ Jun 19 2006, 10:45 PM) [snapback]273856[/snapback]</div>
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Because there is a large loud group that says we should never physically discipline our children and the best parenting is to "negotiate" with your children.

Examples given are common in our jurisdiction as well. Children should be punished in a manner that is effective for that child, including physically. Short of permanent marks or serious physical harm (OR PERMANENT emotinal injury)...parents should be left alone to raise as needed.

I am VERY leery of restrictions on parental discipline. I know abuse when i see it....and I don't see a lot in disciplinary issues.[/b]
this is another reason for child criminals

I agree with this also..

Because there is a large loud group that says we should never physically discipline our children and the best parenting is to "negotiate" with your children.
And that large loud group has a voice...
we have gotten calls to the mall in reference to women beating their children this is a priority responce (Due to you just dont know if some one has lost it) but normally its a parent smacking a childs bottom or hand as a disaplanary action.

And yes the callers are visibly upset when we do not take the parent to jail, we have to explain the the callers that its ok for a parent to spank their child but they just can not leave visable marks or bruising .

another example:
I got called to a H.S. ref an abused child 16yr old w/ broken arm, the girl was mad at her parents and reported that her mom pushed her and she fell thus the broken arm DCF showed up and advised her they where taking her out of the home & charges would be filed the girl realised what was really going to happen and recanted her story.. she was charged with making a false report as her disaplinary action..

Here in Fla. I believe the large loud group started their squwaking in the late 80's-90's & has become the norm since 00.
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Old 06-20-2006, 04:11 PM   #10
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When and if we decide to have children, I guarantee he/she will not be hearing the phrase "time out" in my house. As I child, I was very bad and I was punished accordingly... ie spanked, given hot sauce for talking back/cursing, etc. I've grown into an okay adult, I think.

If people don't want to parent they shouldn't have kids.
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