Disgust for the media

[Schmika]

I know there are plenty of examples of this over the years, but this morning another one just ticked me off.

I listen to the news and it is being reported that the Administration suspects Iran helping the Iraqi insurgents due to the newly noticed armor piercing roadside bombs. That is all well and good but THEN, they report that their is a shortage of humvee armour that will guard against it AND what supply they do have will be sent to Baghdad first.


WTF!!!!!!!!
Hey insurgents, make sure you set up the bombs in Tikrit or Fallujah so you don't WASTE them. We want as big a body count as we can so we can report the 4000th death ASAP.

Hey, does anyone hear think the insurgents have ZERO problems. I don't see them giving interviews to Al jazzera saying things like "well, we only have 5 of those armour piercing bombs left so we need to be careful...we are going to just send them to baghdad and concentrate them in the Sunni neighborhood along "pick ur nose street".

Does no one else see the total way our media has supported the insurgency? WE, the people, may have the right to know how many of our soldiers have died and/or been wounded, we may have the right to know the cost......BUT we have NO NEED to know these details. If WE know them, the insurgents know them.


Ahhhhhhhhhhh...what's the use! My son is coming home this week. Oh, and the poor deluded (sarcasm here) boy is going to re-enlist.....even though he is told he will likely re-deply again.

Thank God there are still some honor filled youngsters left. (Man, am I proud of him doing this)

[hycamguy07]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Schmika @ Feb 12 2007, 10:55 AM) [snapback]388870[/snapback]</div>

I know there are plenty of examples of this over the years, but this morning another one just ticked me off.

I listen to the news and it is being reported that the Administration suspects Iran helping the Iraqi insurgents due to the newly noticed armor piercing roadside bombs. That is all well and good but THEN, they report that their is a shortage of humvee armour that will guard against it AND what supply they do have will be sent to Baghdad first.
WTF!!!!!!!!
Hey insurgents, make sure you set up the bombs in Tikrit or Fallujah so you don't WASTE them. We want as big a body count as we can so we can report the 4000th death ASAP.

Hey, does anyone hear think the insurgents have ZERO problems. I don't see them giving interviews to Al jazzera saying things like "well, we only have 5 of those armour piercing bombs left so we need to be careful...we are going to just send them to baghdad and concentrate them in the Sunni neighborhood along "pick ur nose street".

Does no one else see the total way our media has supported the insurgency? WE, the people, may have the right to know how many of our soldiers have died and/or been wounded, we may have the right to know the cost......BUT we have NO NEED to know these details. If WE know them, the insurgents know them.
Ahhhhhhhhhhh...what's the use! My son is coming home this week. Oh, and the poor deluded (sarcasm here) boy is going to re-enlist.....even though he is told he will likely re-deply again.

Thank God there are still some honor filled youngsters left. (Man, am I proud of him doing this)
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Very well put Schmika

[MegansPrius]

I think the report you head must have exagerrated the specificity of the information. The source on this appears to be a Washington Post story, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7021101345.html, which states:

U.S. Army units in Iraq and Afghanistan lack more than 4,000 of the latest Humvee armor kit, known as FRAG Kit 5, according to U.S. officials. The Army has ramped up production of the armor, giving priority to troops in Baghdad...
..."Those who need FRAG Kit 5 are receiving FRAG Kit 5 based upon theater requirements and priorities," said Army Brig. Gen. Charles Anderson, director of force development for the Army deputy chief of staff. The Army is supplying the life-saving kits "as quickly as we can," he said in an interview and in written responses. "Kits are being flown to theater."

The Army declined to disclose details on the number of kits installed and where the shortages exist.

That the armor shortage story first cropped up in 2004 and that we're still dealing with it does concern me. Best wishes for your son.--Scott

EDIT: the sources cited in the above story are Army Brig. Gen. Charles Anderson and Marine Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

[Proco]

Having freedom of the press is a double-edged sword in cases like this. There should definitely be some kind of "Gee, would the people we're fighting like to know this?" filter that stories should be run through before they're printed. But the media's job is to report what they see as the news. These days it has more to do with whether Paris Hilton is wearing underwear, but I digress.

It's not the media's job to determine what should be printed. The ultimate fault here lies with whoever put the report out in the first place. If you don't want to see it in the paper, don't open your yap.

I'd wager we don't hear about the insurgents' problems because:

1. They're not telling the media
2. They're not as organized as the US military.

I do think you're going a little overboard saying the media has supported the insurgency. Unless, of course, they've been calling them "freedom fighters" and helping bankroll them.

Your son is a credit to his country and I hope if he is re-deployed, he comes home safely.

[Stev0]

If CNN knows it, you can be assured the Bad Guys knew it first.

[Ken Cooper]

Remembering how the media sucked into the administration's Iraq WMD stories and then, through propagation, their getting much of the public sucked in as well, I'm concerned about this same media jumping on these new charges against Iran.

Bush has already made clear his feelings on Iran. Are we now being set up to be accepting of an attack on that country?

It's not that I'm leery of the media, I'm leery of what the administration spoon feeds to the media, and then the media's blind acceptance without follow-up on their own.

[TonyPSchaefer]

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If CNN knows it, you can be assured the Bad Guys knew it first.[/b]

The only time this played in our favor - that I can think offhand - is during the mocked water-landing of the Iraqi war.

Knowing that Saddam watched CNN, they parked CNN reporters right there on the beach to film the soldiers coming ashore. I remember watching it live. Appropriately, Saddam moved almost all of his army to the coast opening up the inland access to the fleet of American bombers. That was sweet.

[mojo]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ken Cooper @ Feb 12 2007, 12:51 PM) [snapback]388945[/snapback]</div>

Remembering how the media sucked into the administration's Iraq WMD stories and then, through propagation, their getting much of the public sucked in as well, I'm concerned about this same media jumping on these new charges against Iran.

Bush has already made clear his feelings on Iran. Are we now being set up to be accepting of an attack on that country?

It's not that I'm leery of the media, I'm leery of what the administration spoon feeds to the media, and then the media's blind acceptance without follow-up on their own.
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I agree absolutely.I dont believe any accusation put forth by this administration.
Remember the worry about Iraq using chemical weapons on our troops during the initial Iraq invasion.Bush sent in many of those troops with outdated ,not functional chemical protection gear.
Today we understand why the chemical suits werent such a major concern.

[Godiva]

There are no excuses for shortages. If there are still shortages, it's not the media's fault. The only way to put pressure on those that are responsible for the shortages is to let the public know so the public can apply the pressure.

I blame the administration. They've shoveled billions down the Iraq Black Hole and there are still shortages? Well, why not divert the money from Halliburton's pocket to armor plating?

[jimmyrose]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ken Cooper @ Feb 12 2007, 12:51 PM) [snapback]388945[/snapback]</div>

Bush has already made clear his feelings on Iran. Are we now being set up to be accepting of an attack on that country?
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Bush:
Yes, because they have WMD's....oh, that's right, we used that one last time.
Yes, because they attacked us....oh that's right, that wasn't them, and we used that last time too.
Dang, somebody manufacture me some intelligence to support what I want to do!