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On the subject of Iran...

View Poll Results: Should the US attack Iran?
Bomb Iran to the ground - they shouldn't even be thinking of cheap power generation or weapons on par with their neighbors 5 23.81%
Invade Iran - After all, they have as many WMD's as Sadam had 0 0%
Utilize the UN and our allies to impose sanctions on Iran and to monitor their nuclear activities 14 66.67%
Utilize the UN and our allies to stop Iran from gaining nuclear capabilities 2 9.52%
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Old 02-27-2007, 02:30 PM   #1
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Stemming off the other Iran thread, i was wondering what everyone else thinks - Berman seems to think they all side with him, as no one else is speaking up in that thread (I'd rather think everyone is just sick of listening to him rant).

At least this way, you can vote anonymously and avoid being attacked by Berman and his ilk!

The basic premise, if you've skipped the other thread, is that Iran is developing nuclear power. They have stated that they are developing it for peaceful, clean power generation, and have no desire (in fact, it would be against their law) to develop nuclear weapons. The clear worry, of course, is that they will develop nuclear weapons and use them on their neighbors.
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Old 02-27-2007, 02:37 PM   #2
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Those poll answers aren't one sides of anything..

The UN is worthless. Saddam made a mockery of them before we overthrew his butt. Iran is making a mockery of them.

UN = worthless

As much as I'd like them to be an effective group at global peace keeping.. They aren't. They have no clout.
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Old 02-27-2007, 02:48 PM   #3
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(eagle33199 @ Feb 27 2007, 02:30 PM) [snapback]397358[/snapback]</div>
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Stemming off the other Iran thread, i was wondering what everyone else thinks - Berman seems to think they all side with him, as no one else is speaking up in that thread (I'd rather think everyone is just sick of listening to him rant).

At least this way, you can vote anonymously and avoid being attacked by Berman and his ilk!

The basic premise, if you've skipped the other thread, is that Iran is developing nuclear power. They have stated that they are developing it for peaceful, clean power generation, and have no desire (in fact, it would be against their law) to develop nuclear weapons. The clear worry, of course, is that they will develop nuclear weapons and use them on their neighbors.
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YOU STILL DONT GET IT - why dont you put my position on there??????

You answer this very simple question which in all probability will represent the case scenario: NO UN action, no public ally support --- does the US act unilaterally to prevent iran from going nuclear?? a simple yes or no will do.

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Old 02-27-2007, 02:52 PM   #4
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Berman, your position is provided in the first two options, which clearly imply unilateral action. the second two provide for action through and with the UN.

I could post 100 different poll options to try to account for every possibility, but the basic options are there - unilateral action, or not.

You don't like my poll options, go start your own.
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Old 02-27-2007, 03:00 PM   #5
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(eagle33199 @ Feb 27 2007, 02:52 PM) [snapback]397377[/snapback]</div>
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Berman, your position is provided in the first two options, which clearly imply unilateral action. the second two provide for action through and with the UN.

I could post 100 different poll options to try to account for every possibility, but the basic options are there - unilateral action, or not.

You don't like my poll options, go start your own.
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not necessary - i am usually up against 100:1 odds here. the fact that you have NO wingmen on this topic says all that is necessary. that should give you pause..........

even dragonfly has not said she agrees with you on this one - WOW!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Feb, 12:00 PM) [snapback]397382[/snapback]</div>
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not necessary - i am usually up against 100:1 odds here. the fact that you have NO wingmen on this topic says all that is necessary. that should give you pause..........

even dragonfly has not said she agrees with you on this one - WOW!
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You're right... no one to support me, except the 4 others who have voted for UN actions against your sole vote for unilateral actions... and the day is still young!
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You're right... no one to support me, except the 4 others who have voted for UN actions against your sole vote for unilateral actions... and the day is still young!
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ok, yeah, I'm one of those.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(desynch @ Feb 27 2007, 02:37 PM) [snapback]397362[/snapback]</div>
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Those poll answers aren't one sides of anything..

The UN is worthless. Saddam made a mockery of them before we overthrew his butt. Iran is making a mockery of them.

UN = worthless

As much as I'd like them to be an effective group at global peace keeping.. They aren't. They have no clout.
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The UN was completely successful in eliminating Iraqs WMDs.
You are absolutely wrong .I cant believe this is still even a matter of debate.
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Old 02-27-2007, 03:31 PM   #10
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(desynch @ Feb 27 2007, 03:37 PM) [snapback]397362[/snapback]</div>
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Those poll answers aren't one sides of anything..

The UN is worthless. Saddam made a mockery of them before we overthrew his butt. Iran is making a mockery of them.

UN = worthless

As much as I'd like them to be an effective group at global peace keeping.. They aren't. They have no clout.
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Yes, the UN obviously failed because Saddam had so many WMDs when we invaded. Oops. Hey, wait a minute...

EDIT: Doh! Didn't read above post.

The fact is, sanctions are already having some effect in Iran. Admanwhathisname's popularity is sinking cause people can't afford tomatoes for their everyday cooking (the price has skyrocketed due to sanctions).
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/...html?source=rss
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