Darwin's God

larkinmj · 03-06-2007, 11:41 AM

An interesting article in the NY Times this week, on a fairly new field of research. It doesn't seek to determine the existence of God, but rather why people believe in God. There are a couple of competing ideas, but they both are derived from evolutionary theory. So if you are a creationist/ID person, you probably wouldn't concede this research validity.

Darwin’s God
By ROBIN MARANTZ HENIG
Published: March 4, 2007
In the world of evolutionary biology, the question is not whether God exists but why we believe in him. Is belief a helpful adaptation or an evolutionary accident?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/04/magazine...xprod=permalink

huskers · 03-06-2007, 11:58 AM

Evidence and rational thinking. (A) we were made from mud and got in trouble from a talking snake. or (

we are a product of the evolutionary process. Once again r a t i o n a l thinking. This will count as a grade. :P

desynch · 03-06-2007, 12:27 PM

One must not believe in God to achieve happiness. Pondering and struggling upon something that is not tangible nor provable is contrary to the path towards innerpeace.

But thats just my take on it.

Stev0 · 03-06-2007, 01:14 PM

Like I've always said,

No God, know peace
Know God, no peace

People who believe really, really strongly in their religious views fly airplanes into buildings.
I've yet to hear of an Agnostic mass murderer.

F8L · 03-06-2007, 02:30 PM

My bottom quote explains why I disbelieve. Well partially lol

Wildkow · 03-06-2007, 03:23 PM

I have never witnessed such a gathering of people in one area seeking to assure each other that God does not exist. The fear is palpable in the hate, vehemence of the attacks and the bigotry of the thoughts expressed. In one attack after another for the last year or so that I have been a member I see the struggle to reach some type of inner peace and yet due to Gods grace it will elude you until the very end. And the funny thing is that that fear and inner discomfort is a blessing from God given to you for your salvation.
I believe in a Awesome Loving God that is long suffering and willing to forgive as demonstrated in the sacrifice of His only Son on the cross.

God Bless

Wildkow

hyo silver · 03-06-2007, 03:35 PM

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I have never witnessed such a gathering of people in one area seeking to assure each other that God does not exist. The fear is palpable in the hate, vehemence of the attacks and the bigotry of the thoughts expressed...
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And I have never witnessed such a gathering of people who refuse to accept reality. The fear, hate, vehemence, and bigotry is indeed palpable.

Stev0 · 03-06-2007, 03:58 PM

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I have never witnessed such a gathering of people in one area seeking to assure each other that God does not exist. The fear is palpable in the hate, vehemence of the attacks and the bigotry of the thoughts expressed. In one attack after another for the last year or so that I have been a member I see the struggle to reach some type of inner peace and yet due to Gods grace it will elude you until the very end. And the funny thing is that that fear and inner discomfort is a blessing from God given to you for your salvation.
I believe in a Awesome Loving God that is long suffering and willing to forgive as demonstrated in the sacrifice of His only Son on the cross.
God Bless

Wildkow
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Like the Catholics in Ireland murdering the Protestants and vice-versa? Like the Muslims in Iraq killing other Muslims for being the wrong kind of Muslim? Like the Inquisition or the Crusades?

Now name me one Agnostic who killed somebody for not being Agnostic.

I don't hate someone for believing in God, Allah, Jesus, Zeus, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I do resent people who resent me for NOT believing the same thing. It's the hatred I hate, not the belief.

galaxee · 03-06-2007, 04:01 PM

everyone thinks they're being persecuted. it's universal.

Stev0 · 03-06-2007, 04:02 PM

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everyone thinks they're being persecuted. it's universal.
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You're just saying that because you're out to get me, I know it.

03-06-2007, 11:41 AM	#1
larkinmj Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,996 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post Friends: 6	An interesting article in the NY Times this week, on a fairly new field of research. It doesn't seek to determine the existence of God, but rather why people believe in God. There are a couple of competing ideas, but they both are derived from evolutionary theory. So if you are a creationist/ID person, you probably wouldn't concede this research validity. Darwin’s God By ROBIN MARANTZ HENIG Published: March 4, 2007 In the world of evolutionary biology, the question is not whether God exists but why we believe in him. Is belief a helpful adaptation or an evolutionary accident? http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/04/magazine...xprod=permalink __________________ Mike Larkin http://www.myspace.com/deadbluessociety

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huskers Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 611 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: #3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	Evidence and rational thinking. (A) we were made from mud and got in trouble from a talking snake. or ( we are a product of the evolutionary process. Once again r a t i o n a l thinking. This will count as a grade. :P

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desynch Die-Hard Conservative Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lakehouse Posts: 607 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: Package: #3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	One must not believe in God to achieve happiness. Pondering and struggling upon something that is not tangible nor provable is contrary to the path towards innerpeace. But thats just my take on it.

03-06-2007, 01:14 PM	#4
Stev0 Aluminum Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Northampton, MA Posts: 5,873 My Car: 2006 Prius Model: Package: #7 Thanks: 43 Thanked 94 Times in 66 Posts Friends: 7	Like I've always said, No God, know peace Know God, no peace People who believe really, really strongly in their religious views fly airplanes into buildings. I've yet to hear of an Agnostic mass murderer.

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F8L Collecting Data on Nature Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA. Posts: 6,380 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: #4 Thanks: 84 Thanked 395 Times in 259 Posts Friends: 36	My bottom quote explains why I disbelieve. Well partially lol

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Wildkow Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,272 My Car: 2006 Prius Model: Package: #8 Thanks: 84 Thanked 36 Times in 33 Posts Friends: 11	I have never witnessed such a gathering of people in one area seeking to assure each other that God does not exist. The fear is palpable in the hate, vehemence of the attacks and the bigotry of the thoughts expressed. In one attack after another for the last year or so that I have been a member I see the struggle to reach some type of inner peace and yet due to Gods grace it will elude you until the very end. And the funny thing is that that fear and inner discomfort is a blessing from God given to you for your salvation. I believe in a Awesome Loving God that is long suffering and willing to forgive as demonstrated in the sacrifice of His only Son on the cross. God Bless Wildkow

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galaxee resident lab rat Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: south of lake Michigan Posts: 9,737 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: N/A Package: #5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 130 Times in 53 Posts Friends: 26	everyone thinks they're being persecuted. it's universal.