Water4gas or Make your own bio-diesel

[hycamguy07]

These sounded awfully fishy... <_<


Water fuel:
http://www.water4gas.com/2books.htm?hop=kevinkanny


Make your own biodeisel at home:
http://www.biodieselfuelonline.com/index2....?hop=kevinkanny

[eagle33199]

LOL thanks for the laugh - i wouldn't imagine who could possibly fall for that...

[tleonhar]

We have developed devices that use a little electricity out of your car's battery, to separate water into a gas called HHO (2 Hydrogen + 1 Oxygen). HHO, also called Brown's Gas or Hydroxy, burns beautifully and provides TONS of energy - while the end product is just WATER! Mobile Magazine says HHO provides the atomic power of Hydrogen, while maintaining the chemical stability of water.

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And we all know this is not to be confused with another compound H2O

Biodiesel can be made at home, if you have a source for vegetable oil, there's quite a few references on the net.

[Presto]

LOL.. the water4gas site is hilarious. Steam with a scientific twist = HHO Gas... HAHA.

[dA_tRuTh514]

[quote]
These sounded awfully fishy... <_<
Water fuel:
http://www.water4gas.info

Unlike popular belief, it's not as fishy as you might think

I have made I little research about the Water4gas because I'm planning to install it on my Golf TDi 1999. Seems like it's not the only product on the market.

I have found a review page on Pure Energy System (PESWiki) about some similar concept. There is a whole topic dedicated to injected hydrogen to improve fuel efficiency. http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Fue...rogen_Injection

Water4gas Simplified device uses a little electricity out of your car's battery to separate water into Hydrogen + Oxygen gas that is 3 times more potent than gasoline. It is added to the air intake of your car engine to improve gas mileage up to 37% by improving combustion. Unique spiraled electrodes produce more gas for less electricity than flat plates.

The site is focused on selling, but the product is garenteed risk free for 56 days! Which will leave you plenty of time to install the device. Test it, and see for yourself if it works or not. I know I will give it a try. They are selling a product that has existed for decades! It's not re-inventing the wheel. People don't seem to realize that this system is simple logic. Though, it might take a skilled mecanician to install it properly.

You also can take a look at Mickael El-Hachem's article on the subject on EZine Articles : Is The Water Powered Car a Reality?

[qbee42]

Snake oil, through and through.

Tom

[alanh]

Right. The best you could possibly do is get the same amount of energy back -- not surpisingly, the energy it takes to split water into H2 and O2 is the same as what you get when you combine (burn) them back into water. If it didn't balance, you'd have the making of a perpetual motion machine.

That's the theoretical best -- in real life there are losses in the splitting, and losses in capturing the energy from burning it.

The only reason hydrogen is being considered at all for vehicles is that it's a portable store of energy that can be made easily from most other energy sources, including non-portable ones like geothermal or nuclear.

Re: the original poster's signature, the Mythbusters did test one of these hydrogen gadgets. It made minuscule amounts of hydrogen, not enough to affect the car's running.

[Godiva]

Is this anything like "Instant water"?

"Instant water consists of dehydrated water. Just add water to reconstitute."

[patsparks]

Talk to a person who is in touch with reality before you lose touch with your money dA_tRuTh514.

[fshagan]

The "burning water in your car" thing has been around a long time. So have bolt-on magnets on the fuel lines. They are bunk, but there is a technology the car companies are working on that is amazingly similar to this to the uninitiated.

Just as we blend ethanol and gasoline, researchers such as Australia's Uli Kruger are working to combine hydrogen and gasoline (Kruger's involved in several alternative energy projects there; you can Google him). The two fuels don't normally mix, of course, and this is not a simple "bolt on" process, but it does have some unique benefits that allow tuning and stretching the fossil fuel tremendously. When hydrogen gas is injected into the air stream of a diesel engine, there's a "cascade of emissions-reducing and mileage boosting effects." The hydrogen burns very cleanly, and displaces half the diesel used for combustion, effectively doubling the mileage and halving the emissions. The water that is a result of the combustion process is used in these engines to cool the exhaust stream and the engine runs much cooler, reducing the NOX emissions inherent in heating up metal.

Fast Company magazine profiled Jonathan Goodwin, a self-educated mechanic who is a genius at extending the MPG and range of vehicles like Hummers and large pickups using blended fuel technologies. GM engineers were pretty excited about his bio-diesel Hummer, and his shop in Kansas is converting cars for high-dollar enthusiasts like Governor Schwarzenegger and entertainer Neil Young. Working with Kruger, Goodwin has developed bio-diesel engines that can inject a number of other fuels to extend the range and slash emissions: natural gas, ethanol, or hydrogen. His bio-diesel / hydrogen powered Hummer has double the horse power, half the emissions, and slashed the MPG of the bio-fuel ... the thing has a 700 mile range now. And in the corner of his shop ... a future hybrid bio-diesel/hydrogen and electric Hummer that he thinks will get around 60 MPG and go 0 - 60 in about 5 seconds. Imagine the Hummer next to you smoking the tires accelerating from the light and exceeding your mileage! And, not using any fossil fuels.