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Old 08-12-2008, 06:18 PM   #11
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Of course they have pissed me off dozens of times over the years, and if you think you are frustrated, think if you had heavy investments in GM, Ford and Chrysler dealerships.
Ths last 3-5 years they have made mostly very good decisions but we are having a hell of time tying to convince the media and the public about the current and future GM product.
I know most of you will not give this credence but this country can't survive with its standard of living without the likes of GM, Ford and Chrysler. The economic situation is flirting with a full fledged disaster.
Thanks for enduring the unconstructive comments that too many post. You sure do not get many thanks here, but I'll put in one. The continous demise of the US Auto Industry is bad news. What do you see as being the good decisions?
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Old 08-12-2008, 06:52 PM   #12
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Glad to see you are still bashing the Detroit 3.
Who's bashing them? Did you even read the article? He says that perhaps it's time to cut the Detroit 3 a break and I agree with him.
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Old 08-12-2008, 07:47 PM   #13
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For everyone that has attempted to believe in the Detroit 3 by purchasing one of their cars after experiencing Japan, German or other reliable imports; "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me".
How many of us believed the Big 3's B.S.,hoping that American's would be able to re-capture the trust of the American public. How many of us purchased an american car just to find the engineering was again substandard. Bring out the American flags and emotionalism in the Big 3 commercials and try to create patriotism to sell the cars. Hell, enlist the tradesman! Put those bumper sticker on your car. Buy American or....your a communist?
Think about the this....how difficult was it for clear thinking Americans to switch to foreigners for our cars? Does anyone think that americans prefer to buy foreign cars versus american cars?
I have a message to the BIG 3....you better prove your product....and as long as I see the Apple pie and American BS I know you still have a sub standard product...
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Old 08-12-2008, 08:42 PM   #14
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I know most of you will not give this credence but this country can't survive with its standard of living without the likes of GM, Ford and Chrysler. The economic situation is flirting with a full fledged disaster.
We can't continue with our current standard of living with or without the Big 3. Are you implying that all will be happy and carefree if the Big 3 become financially healthy again? I'm not sure I follow the logic.
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:15 PM   #15
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I know most of you will not give this credence but this country can't survive with its standard of living without the likes of GM, Ford and Chrysler. The economic situation is flirting with a full fledged disaster.
And now that gas is $2.00 a gallon just like you insisted it would be, they'll now get as healthy as they deserve to be.
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:27 PM   #16
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Gas is $2 is MA? Wow, I guess it does pay to reelect the same people over and over.
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I live in Michigan. Our state's economy rises and falls with the big 3 auto companies. I'd like nothing more than to see the big 3 become wildly successful, but I'm not optimistic. I've watched them stumble about for 20 years, chasing short term objectives and buying labor relations with unsustainable contracts. They won't survive if they continue with business as usual. I'm hoping for a miracle, but not holding my breath.

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We can't continue with our current standard of living with or without the Big 3. Are you implying that all will be happy and carefree if the Big 3 become financially healthy again? I'm not sure I follow the logic.
Not just the Big three, as a society we can't purchase everything form China, Japan and India and expect to survive intact. It is roughly the same as spending money on credit cards and not having a job, eventually the cards are maxed and it is time to pay or go BK.
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Thanks for enduring the unconstructive comments that too many post. You sure do not get many thanks here, but I'll put in one. The continous demise of the US Auto Industry is bad news. What do you see as being the good decisions?
GM's and to a lesser degree Ford's newest product is the best in the world. the new malibu, the new CTS , new Acadia, new silverado etc are the best in their classes and when the price is factored in the value is really outstanding.
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Who's bashing them? Did you even read the article? He says that perhaps it's time to cut the Detroit 3 a break and I agree with him.
I apologize, I thought I detected sarcasm.
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