Need Photo ID To Vote?

[Sufferin' Prius Envy]

Yesterday, Democrats on the California Senate elections committee failed to pass such a bill.

The local #1 TV new channel did an internet survey on the subject.
http://www.thekcrachannel.com/news/4354196/detail.html

91% said yes, Californians should be required to show I.D. at the poles.

Just who are these Democrats representing???

"In looking at (the bill), I don't know that this is the solution,"
said Sen. Gloria Romero, D-Los Angeles.

. . . critics noted that Cox's bill would do nothing to eliminate fraudulent registration.

NO, it would just eliminate fraudulent VOTING!

It’s this type of crappy leadership by the deep dark blue ingrained Democrat state
representatives which is helping transform California into a red state.

[chanterelle]

Election fraud is everybody's business. Why are you blaming just the Democrats? I would hate to think that the Democrats are the only ones who are against fighting election fraud.

And don't forget that there are usually other provisions included in bills that can doom the whole thing, even if the main goal is worthy. Riders are generally either irrelevant or so outrageous that you can't vote for the bill even if you believed strongly in the main part.

But I agree that the election system needs to be overhauled. What we have now doesn't really work that well.

[IsrAmeriPrius]

The right wing zealots are at it again.

There is no credible documentation of election fraud in California. Period. This is a fix for a problem that does not exit. Present law provides that when voter identity fraud is suspected, that voter can be challenged and then only cast a provisional ballot which will not be counted unless and until the issue is resolved.

On the other hand, there is plenty of documentation of eligible voters who were improperly denied the right to vote due to Republican shenanigans in the last two presidential election cycles in Florida and Ohio, to name just two states. Let's fix those real problems before we worry about imaginary ones.

[Sufferin' Prius Envy]

Why would you “hate to think that the Democrats are the only ones who are against fighting election fraud.” ??? Did you misspeak, or do you think others should also be “against fighting election fraud” ?

I blame the Democrats because they are the majority party in the state legislature, and are blatantly standing in the way of a common sense bill. 91% of the people in that pole say so . . . why are the Dems against it???

No, there were no other provisions . . . it was a stand alone bill before the state Senate Elections Committee.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/bill/sen/sb_...introduced.html

If you read it it is quite innocuous.

For example:
© A voter who is unable to present proof of his or her identity or residency as required by this section shall be entitled to vote a provisional ballot . . .

Yet some ACLU moron testified saying . . . "We do think that this kind of scheme would create a burden on voters and result in long lines at the polls, would result in eligible voters not being able to cast their votes," said ACLU representative Vivek Malhotra.

Pure B.S.!!! In California, when the poles “close” the doors don’t slam shut . . . the end any line is tagged and everyone in line is allowed to vote.

[IsrAmeriPrius]

May I suggest that you look up the difference between poles and polls.

[ssmithri]

In the founding times of the United States, our forefathers suffered great hardship to be involved in government. The journey from the home district to Congress was expensive and fraught with discomfort, peril, and pain. The pay was ridiculously low. Successful businessmen and farmers frequently neglected their growing enterprises to serve their country. But the participants were drawn to this cause out of duty and survival—and they gave willingly. At the end of their term, they gladly handed the hardship off to another, with the expectation that each was responsible for doing their duty. These values have been twisted and perverted to the point of being unrecognizable. The good government enacted by the founders has been manipulated, distorted, and destroyed by self-serving political parties, professional politicians, and money.

Patrick... come on... everybody knows... the only thing you need to vote is a load of cash.

[Sufferin' Prius Envy]

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The right wing zealots are at it again.
There is no credible documentation of election fraud in California.  Period.[/b]

From the League of Women Voters web site . . . it is information is provided by State Senator Dick Ackerman . . . yes, a Republican.

16,000 fraudulent voter registration cards were discovered in Los Angeles County, in many cases with the names of people who did not even exist.

However, it was no surprise that these voter fraud prevention bills were killed by a Democratic-controlled Legislature before they ever made it to the Floor for a vote.

Unfortunately, the Democrats have not stopped at simply making it easier to commit voter fraud, they also want to make it easier for criminals to vote.

http://www.smartvoter.org/2000/11/07/ca/st...n_d/paper1.html

Left wing zealots are ignoring facts again.

[Sufferin' Prius Envy]

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May I suggest that you look up the difference between poles and polls.[/b]

Yep, I thought something looked funny there. ops:
Just couldn’t put my phinger on it. :wink:

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8)Sufferin' Prius Envy


The Motor Voter Registration Act made it easy for Illegal Aliens to register to vote. The only people eligible to vote in our national election are citizens. Our last remaining birth right. Unfortunately, we require no proof of citizenship at the time someone applies for a driver’s license. They are voting for political candidates in you city, county, state and federal elections.

[jimofdg]

If it's not a problem (I agree), there must be a system in place to keep voting honest. I remember! Election judges should be present to represent both (major) parties at every polling place. This is why I enjoy being a Democratic election judge (which I was last Tuesday) in a two-thirds Republican county (as of the 2004 primary).

Everyone in my county who has registered in person has produced ID and has signed the registration form. At every election after that, the digitized signature is printed on each Application to Vote. It's entertaining for the judges (we need something) to see the "real" signatures created alongside the digitized ones, and we tell people rummaging for their IDs that "all you need to bring is your signature."

For people who don't register in person, but by mail, things are tougher. No one has ever seen you the first time you vote (but your signature is there waiting for you to match), and you must present a photo ID that also has your signature. Just that first time.

But an election judge - or any person that happens to be present and voting - can challenge anyone about to vote. This results in a quick investigation that usually requires the voter to show ID and verify his/her home address. A majority of the election judges (in my county) determines whether the person is allowed to vote, or is allowed to vote on a Provisional ballot (which may be counted later, but is kept separately) because of the challenge that was upheld in the polling place.

I have never seen money at a polling place - even when one was in a bank LOL. But in brief, the people who are allowed to vote are those who have voted in a previous election. So get in the habit. And enjoy the power your vote has when many of your neighbors (in some areas) don't vote. [Without breaking confidentiality, I can say the turnout of last Tuesday and last November - COMBINED - was 96% in my precinct.]