Yet another Tire thread!

Syclone · 10-24-2006, 08:42 AM

As I've commented previously, I'm ready to get rid of my Integrity's after 5000 miles. I've seen some good comments on Michelin's Energy MX4 tires. Can anybody using the Michelins let me know what their experience has been in the following areas?

1. How much of an MPG hit would I have to take switching to the same size MX4 from the Integrity?

2. How much less gas mileage if I go to 195/65/15 (or does it have to be 195/60/15?).

3. What kind of snow/slush performance could I expect? ( Remember, this is NY/Long Island where a 3" snowfall is an event.)

I would appreciate any inputs.

jdenenberg · 10-24-2006, 10:25 AM

I have had my MXV4+ tires for 25,000 miles after replacing the Integrity tires at 45,000 miles.

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1. How much of an MPG hit would I have to take switching to the same size MX4 from the Integrity?[/b]

MPG actually improves slightly with the MXV4+ , especially in cold weather.

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2. How much less gas mileage if I go to 195/65/15 (or does it have to be 195/60/15?).[/b]

My MXV4+ tires are 185/65R15, but I would expect a slight MPG penalty for heavier tires. Note that My tires have a slightly lower revolutions/mile than the OEMs which lowers the measured MPG 0.7%, but this is not real. Worn tires raise the measured MPG by about 2% (more revs/mile), but this also is not real. 195/65R15 tires will have too low a revs/mile. The 60's would be a better match.

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3. What kind of snow/slush performance could I expect? ( Remember, this is NY/Long Island where a 3" snowfall is an event.)[/b]

Much better than the original Goodyear Integrity tires, but real snow tires would be even better. If this is a real concern, take a look at the Nokian WR tires (if you can find them).

JeffD

Syclone · 10-24-2006, 04:58 PM

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I have had my MXV4+ tires for 25,000 miles after replacing the Integrity tires at 45,000 miles.
MPG actually improves slightly with the MXV4+ , especially in cold weather.
My MXV4+ tires are 185/65R15, but I would expect a slight MPG penalty for heavier tires. Note that My tires have a slightly lower revolutions/mile than the OEMs which lowers the measured MPG 0.7%, but this is not real. Worn tires raise the measured MPG by about 2% (more revs/mile), but this also is not real. 195/65R15 tires will have too low a revs/mile. The 60's would be a better match.
Much better than the original Goodyear Integrity tires, but real snow tires would be even better. If this is a real concern, take a look at the Nokian WR tires (if you can find them).

JeffD
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Thank Jeff! I really appreciate the information. So I guess I'll be looking at the 185/65/15 or the 195/60/15.

SyC

ekpolk · 10-25-2006, 10:17 PM

I second Jeff's comments about the MXV4s. I've had my new set for about three weeks and almost 2k miles. I can't say enough good about them. I had tried a set of Hydroedges, which several members here like very much, but I did not. I took a real hit on mileage and noise was unacceptable, to me anyway. In fairness, both issues were improving with time, but after several thousand miles, with the end of the 30 day free return period, I was unwilling to stay with them. The MXs are a far better match to the Prius, at least in my opinion.

ekpolk · 10-26-2006, 09:14 AM

Oh yeah, I forgot to add: remember, the MXs are part of the Michelin "Energy" series of tires. They are a LRR design. Upon installation of the MXs, my mileage returned to the same range as I'd been seeing with the Integs. I don't see much in the way of cold weather down here, so I can't comment on that part.

10-24-2006, 08:42 AM	#1
Syclone Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 502 My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #5 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	As I've commented previously, I'm ready to get rid of my Integrity's after 5000 miles. I've seen some good comments on Michelin's Energy MX4 tires. Can anybody using the Michelins let me know what their experience has been in the following areas? 1. How much of an MPG hit would I have to take switching to the same size MX4 from the Integrity? 2. How much less gas mileage if I go to 195/65/15 (or does it have to be 195/60/15?). 3. What kind of snow/slush performance could I expect? ( Remember, this is NY/Long Island where a 3" snowfall is an event.) I would appreciate any inputs. __________________ BT Plate Integrated Sirius radio Shark Fin (Sirius antenna under) Signaling Mirrors Pin Stripes After market leather seats Mud Flaps Body Side Molding

10-25-2006, 10:17 PM	#4
ekpolk The Regenerator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pensacola FL Posts: 363 My Car: 2004 Prius Package: #9 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	I second Jeff's comments about the MXV4s. I've had my new set for about three weeks and almost 2k miles. I can't say enough good about them. I had tried a set of Hydroedges, which several members here like very much, but I did not. I took a real hit on mileage and noise was unacceptable, to me anyway. In fairness, both issues were improving with time, but after several thousand miles, with the end of the 30 day free return period, I was unwilling to stay with them. The MXs are a far better match to the Prius, at least in my opinion. __________________ ScanGauge-IIx for the TCH CAN View V3 (for when I care about maximizing Prius benefits). Valentine V1 (for when I *don't* care. . . ). Now in the TCH -- with Remote Display. Black 09 Camry Hybrid Cassis Pearl 07 Avalon XLS Black 04 Prius

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10-26-2006, 09:14 AM	#5
ekpolk The Regenerator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pensacola FL Posts: 363 My Car: 2004 Prius Package: #9 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Oh yeah, I forgot to add: remember, the MXs are part of the Michelin "Energy" series of tires. They are a LRR design. Upon installation of the MXs, my mileage returned to the same range as I'd been seeing with the Integs. I don't see much in the way of cold weather down here, so I can't comment on that part.