My appologies to Charles

VABeachPrius · 12-17-2006, 08:24 PM

Charles,

Even though you inferred negative things about me, I want to appologize for being critical of your personality without knowing who you are and your situation. If you disagree with my abilities and more importantly the conditions in which I drive, which enable me to acheive high fuel economy, there is nothing I can do. The best of luck to you as I continue to drive on.

It really does have everything to do with your commute and temperature.

I just filled up today. 11.426 gallons / 800.6 miles = 70.06 mpg.

A new picture from today; My 3rd 800 mile tank. For those that want the data point; I went 110 miles on a flashing pip. With the temperature today, there shouldn't be any green cars, but I was in a hurry and braked a lot just trying to go those last miles to 800.

**Tideland Prius** · 12-17-2006, 10:06 PM

jeez.. still 63.. it's 34 right now where I am.

good job!

Post it in the I Beat The EPA Thread!

Charles Suitt · 12-18-2006, 01:02 PM

Hi, Chris...

I am the one who offers an apology to you. MEA CULPA! I congratulate you on your phenominal fuel economy.

My comments were inappropriate... I apologize for my implications.

HAVE A GREAT CHRISTMAS AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR..

Charles

VABeachPrius · 12-18-2006, 01:40 PM

RobertG · 12-18-2006, 02:12 PM

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Charles,

Even though you inferred negative things about me, I want to appologize for being critical of your personality without knowing who you are and your situation.[/b]

Based on the signature Charles has, you won't need to worry about his response to your posts if you choose a certain type of avatar.

VABeachPrius · 12-20-2006, 01:13 PM

I really, really tried to let things go, but are private messages like this really necessary:

"I did apologize for my public comments regarding your MPGs. Candidly, I simply don't believe you. I know numerous Prius drivers in North Texas and none claim what you do insofar as MPGs.

I will keep this private, but I do believe you are a TROLL claiming phenonimal results which no one in the entire PriusChat community claims. I suppose this is intended to establish you as some kind of hero, but those with common sense will see through you easily. Sounds like a sick personality disorder.

Other than that.... have a great Holiday Season.

OH... I will not respond to any PMs you may send regarding this issue and I have placed you on IGNORE so I don't have to view your lies." - Charles Suitt

I am more than happy to show anyone how I am doing what I am doing anytime, anyplace. Can we wait for a 70F day?

I hope someone comes along to show me something so that I can raise my personal best even higher.

**TonyPSchaefer** · 12-20-2006, 01:39 PM

I was thinking about this back-n-forth on my way home last night. A couple of things crossed my mind.

First, Ken in Japan linked to a website in which a girl posted a picture of her Prius MFD showing more than 1,100 miles. It was in Km in the picture, but people did the math and no one argued.

Secondly, I know a guy who lives about 2.3 miles from my house. We experience the same weather, the same traffic flows, and attend many of the same hybrid meet-ups. We both have about 50 MPG lifetime average in our cars. The difference: I drive a Toyota Prius and Wayne Gertes drives a 6-cylinder Honda Accord.

Wayne and Tom B. started a website for Hypermilers called http://www.CleanMPG.com. The difference is that on that forum, no one doubts claims like this because on that forum, most people are achieving the same results. And some Hypermilers are doing it with Saturn L-Series and Ford Trucks and other non-hybrids.

**efusco** · 12-20-2006, 01:56 PM

I can't even tell you how much this bothers me. Charles apologized publicly, but it turns out that HE is the liar here...he didn't feel bad. He told me that he hadn't been feeling well and thus his ill humor in his first post calling Chris a troll and a liar. He was simply blowing smoke up my butt too, obviously.

The lesson here is clear. If Charles chooses not to believe you for whatever imaginary reasons he gets in his head then no amount of proof, logic or explaination will alter that self-rightous conviction in his mind. His self-rightousness, I agree, is evident in his sig....there are those who follow "His" rules who he'll read. Those who don't conform to his fanciful ideal are not worthy of his respect. I think it's very clear who's not worthy of respect here.

My 70+ mpg segments must also be lies...b/c Charles can't get them. The 1400 mile marathon is, like the moon landing, a fiction. The innumerable folk getting 60-70 mpg regularly are all in cahoots and working their Photoshop programs overtime creating these fake photos of the MFD.

I'm sad that one of our long time members has chosen to make himself such a sad example of a Priuschat member.

Charles Suitt · 12-20-2006, 02:20 PM

This thread seems to have descended into bitterness - too bad. I thought PRIVATE MESSAGES were just that - PRIVATE. I harbor no bitterness and do not wish to perpetuate this unfortunate line of discussion.

I wish each of you a HAPPY CHRISTMAS and PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR.

12-17-2006, 08:24 PM	#1
VABeachPrius Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 135 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Charles, Even though you inferred negative things about me, I want to appologize for being critical of your personality without knowing who you are and your situation. If you disagree with my abilities and more importantly the conditions in which I drive, which enable me to acheive high fuel economy, there is nothing I can do. The best of luck to you as I continue to drive on. It really does have everything to do with your commute and temperature. I just filled up today. 11.426 gallons / 800.6 miles = 70.06 mpg. A new picture from today; My 3rd 800 mile tank. For those that want the data point; I went 110 miles on a flashing pip. With the temperature today, there shouldn't be any green cars, but I was in a hurry and braked a lot just trying to go those last miles to 800. __________________ Thank you, Chris http://greenhybrid.com/compare/mileage/car/3279.html Best Tank: 84.6 MPG @ 1023.3 miles Best Segment: 103.3 mpg over 62.4 miles (calculated) 05/25/2007 Furthest Tank: 1023.3 miles 3 - 700+ mile tanks 5 - 800+ mile tanks 0 - 900+ mile tanks 1 - 1000+ mile tank

12-20-2006, 01:39 PM	#7
TonyPSchaefer Ruler of Omicron Persei 8 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Far-North Chicagoland Posts: 8,644 My Car: 2004 Prius Package: #9 Nominated 4 Times in 2 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 18	I was thinking about this back-n-forth on my way home last night. A couple of things crossed my mind. First, Ken in Japan linked to a website in which a girl posted a picture of her Prius MFD showing more than 1,100 miles. It was in Km in the picture, but people did the math and no one argued. Secondly, I know a guy who lives about 2.3 miles from my house. We experience the same weather, the same traffic flows, and attend many of the same hybrid meet-ups. We both have about 50 MPG lifetime average in our cars. The difference: I drive a Toyota Prius and Wayne Gertes drives a 6-cylinder Honda Accord. Wayne and Tom B. started a website for Hypermilers called http://www.CleanMPG.com. The difference is that on that forum, no one doubts claims like this because on that forum, most people are achieving the same results. And some Hypermilers are doing it with Saturn L-Series and Ford Trucks and other non-hybrids. __________________ Proud father of Priapus: the '04 Tideland BC9 with an OEM EV button and sense of self-righteousness >>Current Mileage<< Spreading information and passing gas in the Greater Chicagoland area

12-20-2006, 01:56 PM	#8
efusco Troll Slayer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nixa, MO Posts: 14,710 My Car: 2004 Prius Package: #9 Nominated 1 Time in 1 Post TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 26	I can't even tell you how much this bothers me. Charles apologized publicly, but it turns out that HE is the liar here...he didn't feel bad. He told me that he hadn't been feeling well and thus his ill humor in his first post calling Chris a troll and a liar. He was simply blowing smoke up my butt too, obviously. The lesson here is clear. If Charles chooses not to believe you for whatever imaginary reasons he gets in his head then no amount of proof, logic or explaination will alter that self-rightous conviction in his mind. His self-rightousness, I agree, is evident in his sig....there are those who follow "His" rules who he'll read. Those who don't conform to his fanciful ideal are not worthy of his respect. I think it's very clear who's not worthy of respect here. My 70+ mpg segments must also be lies...b/c Charles can't get them. The 1400 mile marathon is, like the moon landing, a fiction. The innumerable folk getting 60-70 mpg regularly are all in cahoots and working their Photoshop programs overtime creating these fake photos of the MFD. I'm sad that one of our long time members has chosen to make himself such a sad example of a Priuschat member. __________________ Evan E. Fusco, MD Seaside 04BC9/OEM EVb/NAV & auto-BT/XM Radio, CAN-View, Shark Fin, BT Stiff. Plate, Skid Plate & Strut Support

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12-17-2006, 10:06 PM	#2
Tideland Prius Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 14,192 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: B Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 12	jeez.. still 63.. it's 34 right now where I am. good job! Post it in the I Beat The EPA Thread!

12-18-2006, 01:02 PM	#3
Charles Suitt Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 1,622 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Hi, Chris... I am the one who offers an apology to you. MEA CULPA! I congratulate you on your phenominal fuel economy. My comments were inappropriate... I apologize for my implications. HAVE A GREAT CHRISTMAS AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR.. Charles

12-18-2006, 01:40 PM	#4
VABeachPrius Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 135 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0

12-20-2006, 01:13 PM	#6
VABeachPrius Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 135 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	I really, really tried to let things go, but are private messages like this really necessary: "I did apologize for my public comments regarding your MPGs. Candidly, I simply don't believe you. I know numerous Prius drivers in North Texas and none claim what you do insofar as MPGs. I will keep this private, but I do believe you are a TROLL claiming phenonimal results which no one in the entire PriusChat community claims. I suppose this is intended to establish you as some kind of hero, but those with common sense will see through you easily. Sounds like a sick personality disorder. Other than that.... have a great Holiday Season. OH... I will not respond to any PMs you may send regarding this issue and I have placed you on IGNORE so I don't have to view your lies." - Charles Suitt I am more than happy to show anyone how I am doing what I am doing anytime, anyplace. Can we wait for a 70F day? I hope someone comes along to show me something so that I can raise my personal best even higher.

12-20-2006, 02:20 PM	#9
Charles Suitt Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 1,622 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	This thread seems to have descended into bitterness - too bad. I thought PRIVATE MESSAGES were just that - PRIVATE. I harbor no bitterness and do not wish to perpetuate this unfortunate line of discussion. I wish each of you a HAPPY CHRISTMAS and PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR.