Will GM and Ford Stop selling cars in California?

iaowings · 04-13-2007, 05:28 PM

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-13249_7-66846...ag=cnetfd.pdcst

listen to the pod cast Will GM and Ford stick to middle America?.

I hope they keep the laws in place and emissions have to be lowered.
I say get with the program or get out.

Jonnycat26 · 04-13-2007, 05:35 PM

Better question is, will Toyota?

http://www.driveclean.ca.gov/en/gv/vsearch...ehicletypeid=16

My god... Toyota has ONE gas car (non-hybrid) that is PZEV. One. No Lexuses. No scions.

GM has 8.

Even VW has 4.

Toyota needs to stop suing CA over CARB and make another gas car that gets a PZEV rating.

EricGo · 04-24-2007, 06:03 PM

This podcast was about state regulation of CO2 emissions, nothing to do with PZEV at all.

fshagan · 04-24-2007, 11:22 PM

The automakers always do this ... Chrysler resisted airbags until the law was passed, implemented them early, then ran commercials about what good corporate citizens they were for "giving" consumers air bags. Ford and GM won't give up the lucrative California market.

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04-13-2007, 05:28 PM	#1
iaowings Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 450 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-13249_7-66846...ag=cnetfd.pdcst listen to the pod cast Will GM and Ford stick to middle America?. I hope they keep the laws in place and emissions have to be lowered. I say get with the program or get out.

04-13-2007, 05:35 PM	#2
Jonnycat26 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Brunswick, NJ Posts: 1,714 My Car: 2004 Prius Package: #9 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Better question is, will Toyota? http://www.driveclean.ca.gov/en/gv/vsearch...ehicletypeid=16 My god... Toyota has ONE gas car (non-hybrid) that is PZEV. One. No Lexuses. No scions. GM has 8. Even VW has 4. Toyota needs to stop suing CA over CARB and make another gas car that gets a PZEV rating.

04-24-2007, 06:03 PM	#3
EricGo Three cats, one Prius, and assorted humans Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Albuquerque, NM (SouthWest US) Posts: 1,810 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	This podcast was about state regulation of CO2 emissions, nothing to do with PZEV at all.

04-24-2007, 11:22 PM	#4
fshagan Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,775 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	The automakers always do this ... Chrysler resisted airbags until the law was passed, implemented them early, then ran commercials about what good corporate citizens they were for "giving" consumers air bags. Ford and GM won't give up the lucrative California market.