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Old 05-10-2007, 10:37 AM   #11
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gazz @ May 10 2007, 10:22 AM) [snapback]439045[/snapback]</div>
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Thanks for that, got the web site for the EBH?
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Old 05-10-2007, 10:38 AM   #12
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gazz @ May 10 2007, 10:22 AM) [snapback]439045[/snapback]</div>
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Thanks for that, got the web site for the EBH?
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MetroTPN or Sigma (bottom of page) are the ones that I know of.
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:23 AM   #13
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Highly ImPriused @ May 10 2007, 09:38 AM) [snapback]439061[/snapback]</div>
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MetroTPN or Sigma (bottom of page) are the ones that I know of.
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Thanks for that again, last question do you know the current (watts) so I can size to 240-110 transformer.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gazz @ May 10 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]439105[/snapback]</div>
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Thanks for that again, last question do you know the current (watts) so I can size to 240-110 transformer.
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Unfortunately I don't know the watts as I've yet to purchase one (but I probably will prior to next winter). I'm sure someone who has one can chime in or you could send an inquiry to one of those sites if it's not listed in the specs.
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It's about 400W.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gazz @ May 10 2007, 08:50 AM) [snapback]439017[/snapback]</div>
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The problem is the ones from Canada or US are only 110V not 240V we use in Europe. Any idears? [/b]
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I thought it was 350??? well, could be 400..... sorry, i'm not sure. Where's FireEngineer when you need him???
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RangerDavid, I'm almost certain it's 400. I'm sure Wayne's out installing someone's block heater!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gazz @ May 10 2007, 09:39 AM) [snapback]439006[/snapback]</div>
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But have you any preference on the rpm you should use for the first few miles. 1,500 or 2,000. [/b]
For the first minute or so (less with an EBH) on a cold start, the car goes through its initial warmup cycle. After the first few seconds the ICE will run, but its focus is warming itself and the catalytic converter, not providing much power. If you try to accelerate rapidly, it will pull power from the battery. So I baby the pedal until this stage has passed. Fortunately, the length of my driveway is such that by the time I'm on the road this stage has passed.

After that, I try to keep RPM within an efficient range: low end of 1400-1500, high end of 2300-2400, mid range of 1700-1800.
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Gazz, you might also look for an EBH in Scandinavian or Northern Europe countries, to get the right voltage. Maybe Lowlander has some knowledge? Or Piotr in Poland? It's moving in to summer, so you have a couple of months for research... All that conversion for a resistance electric heater wastes energy...
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From northern Europe the DEFA model 872 is used with the Yaris with the same 1.5L 1NZ-FE engine.

DEFA 872 Info

1 NZ-FE Engine Installation

DEFA actually recommends the DEFA 859 which is a pad that is mechanically attached to the engine block just below where the cast hole in the block is located.

Both of these are 230V.

Or you can go with the US heater and the transformer as Highly ImPriused suggested. The VAT for import might push you to the DEFA. There does not seem to be any DEFA distributor in England but any country west of France seems to have distribution.

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