Still outshined by the Honda Insight !!

Rangerdavid · 06-09-2007, 06:15 PM

Met a guy at the vegetable market this afternoon driving a Honda Insight. Now there are many things I am still learning about my prius, and I've just gotten the hang of the P&G method which has helped me attain my best mileage yet. My last tank at 56 MPG here in the mountains was something I was really proud of.

But the Insight gentleman, who was a very nice guy, is getting 70 MPG up here !!! Dang, do the insights get that much better mileage?? well, apparently so... even though this guy stated that he "works at it", well so do I. I love my Prius and wouldn't trade it for anything. I even looked into the Insight when I was determining which Hybrid to Purchase, and I decided I needed a back seat.

Do Insight drivers pulse and glide also? I know Wayne won the hybrid challenge last year at the Hybridfest in an Insight I believe, but dang, 70 mpg in these mountains is very very good.

Anyway, just thought I post on a nice conversation with another "one of us" trying to do the right thing for himself, us, our mother earth as well as our country. Beautiful day to be driving around here in the mountains!! Hope everyone else is having a good weekend. Later.

**efusco** · 06-09-2007, 06:21 PM

Did you ask him how it does with 3 passengers and camping gear for a week for all of them?! ;-{)

boulder_bum · 06-09-2007, 06:44 PM

Yes, the Insights unquestionably get better mileage, they're just not as practical: only two seats, no trunk to speak of, and no high-tech gagetry like the Prius.

I have a friend with an Insight who says he's never had to get anything but an oil change, and hasn't even had to change his brake pads because of the regenerative braking.

FireEngineer · 06-09-2007, 06:49 PM

Dave, as a MPG machine the 5 speed Insight has no equal in a production car. But if you want to beat the Insight find some heavily congested urban (in the city) streets and you can take the prize. But don't tell Wayne Gerdes or the other guys at the Insight Marathon, I don't want to find an Insight outside my front door during my morning commute.

Wayne

JimboK · 06-09-2007, 09:53 PM

Delta Flyer makes an occasional appearance here. He's an Insight driver. Maybe he'll see this and respond. Otherwise, he's very active on both CleanMPG and GreenHybrid (as well as other Insight drivers).

hill · 06-09-2007, 10:14 PM

RangerDavid, The Honda 2 seater hybrid can't pulse and glide like a Prius . . . that, among other goodies is the beauty of the prius ... which unlike the Insight, is still in production, with many more to come. As for 70mpg?

I spit on his 70mpg

This is actually my ongong best tank so far ... less than 90 miles to do 700 on ONE TANK ! ! !

Per · 06-09-2007, 11:40 PM

We test drove the Insight right after it came out. It was pitifully underpowered and noisy. I will only compromise so far to get good mileage, but for those who are happy with their Insights, more power to them.

usbseawolf2000 · 06-10-2007, 01:04 AM

Insight is over half a ton lighter than Prius. The extra energy has to come out from somewhere to move the extra 1,000 lbs around.

If we take your 56 mpg and his 70 mpg, Prius HSD moves 52 lbs (2890/56) per mpg while the Insight IMA moves 27 lbs (1887/70) per mpg.

You are clearly doing better than him, pound for pound.

JimN · 06-10-2007, 08:01 PM

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RangerDavid, The Honda 2 seater hybrid can't pulse and glide like a Prius . . . that, among other goodies is the beauty of the prius ... which unlike the Insight, is still in production, with many more to come. As for 70mpg?
I spit on his 70mpg

This is actually my ongong best tank so far ... less than 90 miles to do 700 on ONE TANK ! ! !
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Yesterday an Insight got 78mpg to win the rally. When parked next to the Prius it's smaller size is obvious. As a two person commuter it is tough to beat but that changes once a pile of stuff needs to be transported. If it's any consolation, the other Insight brought up the rear.

MarinJohn · 06-11-2007, 12:17 PM

It was my friend's Insight which led me to the Prius. I'm not much for cars low to the ground, and his Insight rides very harshly. However, the Insight was truly the pioneer in the modern hybrid industry and deserves it's place in history. PS he very much likes his Insight, but when we go for drives in the country we always take my Prius, and he likes driving it tremendously. Oh, and since I 'just drive it' I get around 49MPG and when he drives my Prius he consistently gets around 52 MPG. Same car, 2 drivers, 2 results. I find this amazing.

06-09-2007, 06:15 PM	#1
Rangerdavid Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boone, North Carolina Posts: 1,040 My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #5 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 9	Met a guy at the vegetable market this afternoon driving a Honda Insight. Now there are many things I am still learning about my prius, and I've just gotten the hang of the P&G method which has helped me attain my best mileage yet. My last tank at 56 MPG here in the mountains was something I was really proud of. But the Insight gentleman, who was a very nice guy, is getting 70 MPG up here !!! Dang, do the insights get that much better mileage?? well, apparently so... even though this guy stated that he "works at it", well so do I. I love my Prius and wouldn't trade it for anything. I even looked into the Insight when I was determining which Hybrid to Purchase, and I decided I needed a back seat. Do Insight drivers pulse and glide also? I know Wayne won the hybrid challenge last year at the Hybridfest in an Insight I believe, but dang, 70 mpg in these mountains is very very good. Anyway, just thought I post on a nice conversation with another "one of us" trying to do the right thing for himself, us, our mother earth as well as our country. Beautiful day to be driving around here in the mountains!! Hope everyone else is having a good weekend. Later. __________________ ******************************* Rangerdavid Boone, North Carolina 2006 Silver Pine Mica, Package #5 All weather mats, mud flaps, PC front window heat shield ScanGauge II BT Stiffening Plate Engine Block Heater (installed by FireEngineer) Rear Bumper Protector Wheelskins Two-Tone Leather Steering Wheel Cover Belkin cup holder unit for PDA/mp3 Player Winter front grill wind blocker

06-09-2007, 10:14 PM	#6
hill High Fiber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South OC So Cal & the Flathead Valley MT Posts: 2,284 My Car: 2004 Prius Package: #9 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 2	RangerDavid, The Honda 2 seater hybrid can't pulse and glide like a Prius . . . that, among other goodies is the beauty of the prius ... which unlike the Insight, is still in production, with many more to come. As for 70mpg? I spit on his 70mpg This is actually my ongong best tank so far ... less than 90 miles to do 700 on ONE TANK ! ! ! Attached Thumbnails

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efusco Troll Slayer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nixa, MO Posts: 13,369 My Car: 2004 Prius Package: #9 Nominated 1 Time in 1 Post TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 23	Did you ask him how it does with 3 passengers and camping gear for a week for all of them?! ;-{)

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boulder_bum Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Castle Rock, CO Posts: 1,031 My Car: 2007 Prius Package: N/A Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 5	Yes, the Insights unquestionably get better mileage, they're just not as practical: only two seats, no trunk to speak of, and no high-tech gagetry like the Prius. I have a friend with an Insight who says he's never had to get anything but an oil change, and hasn't even had to change his brake pads because of the regenerative braking.

06-09-2007, 06:49 PM	#4
FireEngineer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: SW-Side of Chicago, IL Posts: 753 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: #6 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 3	Dave, as a MPG machine the 5 speed Insight has no equal in a production car. But if you want to beat the Insight find some heavily congested urban (in the city) streets and you can take the prize. But don't tell Wayne Gerdes or the other guys at the Insight Marathon, I don't want to find an Insight outside my front door during my morning commute. Wayne

06-09-2007, 09:53 PM	#5
JimboK One owner, low mileage Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chesterfield, VA Posts: 1,945 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: #2 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 2	Delta Flyer makes an occasional appearance here. He's an Insight driver. Maybe he'll see this and respond. Otherwise, he's very active on both CleanMPG and GreenHybrid (as well as other Insight drivers).

06-09-2007, 11:40 PM	#7
Per Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Antonio Posts: 171 My Car: Other Hybrid Package: N/A Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	We test drove the Insight right after it came out. It was pitifully underpowered and noisy. I will only compromise so far to get good mileage, but for those who are happy with their Insights, more power to them.

06-10-2007, 01:04 AM	#8
usbseawolf2000 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Whitestone, NY Posts: 1,451 My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #3 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 14	Insight is over half a ton lighter than Prius. The extra energy has to come out from somewhere to move the extra 1,000 lbs around. If we take your 56 mpg and his 70 mpg, Prius HSD moves 52 lbs (2890/56) per mpg while the Insight IMA moves 27 lbs (1887/70) per mpg. You are clearly doing better than him, pound for pound.

06-11-2007, 12:17 PM	#10
MarinJohn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,132 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 1	It was my friend's Insight which led me to the Prius. I'm not much for cars low to the ground, and his Insight rides very harshly. However, the Insight was truly the pioneer in the modern hybrid industry and deserves it's place in history. PS he very much likes his Insight, but when we go for drives in the country we always take my Prius, and he likes driving it tremendously. Oh, and since I 'just drive it' I get around 49MPG and when he drives my Prius he consistently gets around 52 MPG. Same car, 2 drivers, 2 results. I find this amazing.