Fuel consumption: US Vs the World

[Alric]

And raising the CAFE standards is hotly debated. Having the worse CAFE standards of most industrialized nations must be contributing to the huge difference.

[Tideland Prius]

In places like Venezuela, sure gas is a few cents a litre but trust me, you wouldn't want to put that fuel in your car. If you did, the modern car will break down (yes, break down) cause the quality of fuel is very poor.

[jewelerdave]

More appropriately this should be called.

A chart on how screwed we would be if oil ran out tomorrow!

More appropriately this should be called.

A chart on how screwed we would be if oil ran out tomorrow!

[chetto]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tideland Prius @ Jul 13 2007, 10:44 AM) [snapback]478132[/snapback]</div>

In places like Venezuela, sure gas is a few cents a litre but trust me, you wouldn't want to put that fuel in your car. If you did, the modern car will break down (yes, break down) cause the quality of fuel is very poor.
[/b]

Actually I have distant family down there, but we keep in touch. They own a 2004 Honda Civic and have had no problems that i know of.

[dbermanmd]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Alric @ Jul 13 2007, 11:40 AM) [snapback]478129[/snapback]</div>

And raising the CAFE standards is hotly debated. Having the worse CAFE standards of most industrialized nations must be contributing to the huge difference.


[/b]

To me it looks beautiful. What is your point?

Perhaps you should also put up a similar graph on GDP?

[MikeSF]

I'm going to comment specifically on this graph, simply because I really dislike future predictions on something like this.

Japan & the EU are fine, the rest look like junk.

China has that good of economy? Does this take into account all those little mopeds/scooters they drive? I'm guessing it may.

Australia & Canada, they have one data point, then one predicted data point? Is this simply assuming they're going to have more fuel efficient cars? Do they have laws to the effect?

California... as much as I'd like to think we're the innovator, the leader, the state that really steps up to the plate. I simply can not believe all those predicted data points will hold true. I've seen too many bills/laws that were simply pushed back and extended "indefinitely" simply because the expectations are unrealistic.. blah blah blah

[ken1784]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MikeSF @ Jul 18 2007, 11:43 PM) [snapback]480876[/snapback]</div>

Japan & the EU are fine, the rest look like junk.
[/b]

Each country or geography has different fuel economy testing standard.
The Japanese 10-15 mode test results of 2004-2007 Prius is 35.5 km/liter, 83.5 mpg.

Ken@Japan

[Devil's Advocate]

What I find interesting is that even with that much fuel consumption the U.S. is still behind China (and even India now, I think) in CO2 pollution!?!

That must mean that we have incredibly efficinet and clean burning vehicles here, or that the vehicles in China and India are designed to do nothing nbut spew CO2.

Granted, the total CO2 numbers just released (heard on the radio, am 1150 KTALK in LA, so those of you can know that info is reliable;-) are total numbers, you would think with that much fuel consumption we would never be surpassed. Hummmm, I wonder why we never signed Kyototo, oh yeah because China and India were exempt from any penalties and now they are the largest polluters.

[ystasino]

Yep the US taxpayers fund both sides of the war on terrorism.

[alexstarfire]

Actually the CO2 pollution in China doesn't come from the cars so much as all the industries they have there. As far as I know they don't have emission standards like we do on pollution coming from factories.

You can't compare Japan's FE to the USes, they are simply too different. Japan is a much smaller country so they don't need cars that can go huge distances, hence smaller design. Smaller design = more FE, in general.

Even the EU isn't a good comparison. China is actually the one we are closest to in terms of vehicle needs. The thing is that more Asians only get what they need, not what they want or what they think looks great. If they can get by with a scooter they aren't going to buy a car for the hell of it.

I bet if you looked at just what the cars get for FE, then the numbers would be more similar to the USes than what is on the charts right now.


Also, on the petrol consumption. Does that include all uses of oil, or only what is used to power vehicles? Because I'm sure that we use a ton of oil on other products while those in other countries do not use as much as we do.