The 35-40 Avg Mpg Club

markderail · 09-29-2007, 01:08 PM

About time we had our own club !

Let's brag about how we don't Pulse & Glide all the time, drive difficult routes in traffic, stops, lights.
How we left lane drive and totally smoke those SUV's, how we don't EVER have a 20 yr old TDI or Civic driver riding on our rear bumper. We Flash To Pass.

So if you drive "Sporty" and totally ENJOY the constant power of the VTT, here's your club !!!

By driving for the shear pleasure of horsepower and getting from A to B in great time, taking even greater pleasure with the fact that even by driving fast - we're using way less gas than regular cars and the PZEV is still giving out low pollution.

Please - no hypermilers post here. I want to share stories on how the day-to-day, to work & back, weekend highway driving, etc.

How we enjoy this wonderful car without compromise

[EDIT]
Before someone tells me I'm wasting gas - whenever I see other Prius drivers, on roads or highways, they drive too slow "trying to hypermile" causing other cars to pass them !
Causing inefficient cars to consume more gas so that the Prius driver gets a little better Mpg.
By driving with the flow, and gliding to lights & stops, you make other drivers consume less gas, and be less of a road menace.

[EDIT2]
My average for the entire month of September is 5.8 liters/100 km = 40.55 miles/gallon(US)

markderail · 09-29-2007, 01:32 PM

So, first story. I was headed out of the city to a B & B over 450km away. Out of Montreal to a small town near Rivière-du-loup.

Basically, leaving at 4pm on a Friday, some 45 minutes of traffic, then a good 400km of pure highway driving, two lanes on either side.

So, FINALLY my chance to join the "High Mpg" club !!! I totally prepared for this, as it doesn't happen often.
My daily & weekend commutes contribute to a personal RL average of 5.9l/100.

So only my wife with me, minimal baggage, no rack on roof. My tank was naturally low for a Friday - I fill up every 2-3 weeks on average (low mileage per month user).

So I put 34 litres, reset all the counters, and we're off! S L O W L Y, Pulse & Gliding in the traffic, nearly always in electric. The first 35 km to exit the city showed a real low graph, my average was 4.2l/100km. Awesome!

Once on highway speeds, cruise control set to 103 KM/h - 65 Mph, the entire way! No stopping! 4.8l/100km some 300km later! Awesome!

So I get to destination 456km later, a full half tank of gas left. Still at 4.8l/100km. Awesome!

We drove around the small towns, always at 50-55 KM/h, the next day, then headed back home, with a stop at city called Levis (across the water from Quebec city). In downtown Levis, just before the Ferry Ride, I refill the gas tank.
Still at 4.8l/100km, and the fill up uses....15.1 litres !!! w00t !

We stay for supper in Quebec city, in the old section. Discovered the Soap Store Called LUSH. Awesome!

Heavy Rain !!! for the last leg. After five minutes in full rain at 103 KM/h, I'm at 7.0l/100km.
So there goes my screenshot to hell, 250km to drive, at night, in a constant downpour.
By the time I'm home, my average is now 6.5l/100KM.

Now, if I had driven left lane the whole back & forth, following traffic, my average would have been 6.5l/100km, but my trip would have taken nearly an hour less time !!!

So now, screw it! I have much more fun passing than being passed. I *hate* having over 50 large 18 wheeler's pass me on the left, because I'm driving at the posted limit.
I rather follow the pack.

Another trip I did was Montreal - Moncton, where I did not try for low mileage, but best speed. 3000+ KM in six days, my average was 6.5l/100km, with wife, one 16yr old son, roof rack LOADED plus cooler, and easily 30 pounds of chips/drinks/snacks.

So this is plenty good enough for me. The car performs wonderfully even up steep hills to pass.
I rather have fun, save hours in travel time, getting 6.5 instead of 5.0l/100km.

So, who's with me?

brick · 09-29-2007, 04:00 PM

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So, who's with me?

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Not me, I don't think, but I'm glad the car does the job for you. So many people think that you 250+hp just to survive on the roadway which is complete crap. The Prius does surprise me the few times I do lead-foot it on the freeway, probably because of that high-torque grunt provided by the electric motors. It doesn't feel fast but the numbers on the speedo don't lie. It's much quicker than the uninitiated will believe. It may not be a sports car but at least it out-handles any of the behemoth SUVs that everyone seems to think are so great.

That said, I still prefer to take it easy in the right lane. Everyone else can pass to their hearts content.

AOV · 09-29-2007, 05:07 PM

Not me either....but probably will soon, unfortunately...with the modifications I have done....damn.
I am having a hard time maintaining mid 50's now...before it was a lot better. The mudguards, the hood deflector, the upgraded tires.... and the ever persistent tailgaters.

vuapplepudding · 09-29-2007, 05:48 PM

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Not me, I don't think, but I'm glad the car does the job for you. So many people think that you 250+hp just to survive on the roadway which is complete crap.
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Not me either.

I drive and still have fun. Still I get 52 MPG city/highway with a 120 miles daily commute both ways. I can still engage any traffic situation and still get great numbers.

I'll just save the extra money on the next generation PRIUS rather than continuing to feed the oil companies' pockets.

**Tideland Prius** · 09-29-2007, 07:23 PM

I have fun from time and time and yes that screws up my mileage but my lifetime is below 5.0L/100km.

Must be the Quebecois' way of life

. Just kidding.

patsparks · 09-29-2007, 07:30 PM

Well I hate getting left behind at traffic light drags, so I don't! I'm always the first off the lights and I am always the first up to the speed limit, mostly half throttle gets me there too! I go through 40 sets of traffic lights each way on my daily commute, I'm not exagerating, from Woodcroft to Walkley Heights Adelaide Australia, look it up and count them. I get to work quicker in my Prius than I did in my Camry and getting home is the same story. My daily commute is about 34km each way so the engine is warm a lot. I never stretch the tank for the sake of it, I value the hybrid battery too much for that running out of fuel business, but I still get over 800km from each 40 litre refill! Oh there was one time I didn't make better than 5.0L/100km, that was when I went on a 650km round trip to Port Augusta and back. I traveled at the speed limit of 110km/h except when overtaking or through towns. Most people in South Australia drive at the speed limits which are enforced. When overtaking at one point I got up to 160km/h but normally 140km/h did the job. Still over 700km before I filled up and averaged 5.2L/100km.

Pulse and gliders must be a pain in the bum for those around them, and as for following slow trucks to reduce consumption, have you read the threads about stone damage to the bonnet and windscreen of the Prius? Why would you do it to your self? Those fat tyres pick up every little stone and fling them back at you.

Unfortunately I can't join the 5.5 to 6.5L/100km club because I always better 5.5L/100km! Even with my rev head ways, racing off lights and passing at up to 100mph I can't drive my average below 5.2L/100km even on a trip. I have never been one to race up to a red light, I have always tried to time the lights to keep the wheels turning even if it is very slowly. I don't tail gate so I have room to drive at a constant pace while others around me are always touching the brakes. Ny normal drive is mostly flat too fortunately, I have one good hill which I climb at 100km/h or a little more with power to spare. At half a tank this hill alone increases my average consumption by 0.1L/100km each time I climb it but by the end of the tank that affect is no longer evident due to higher km on the tank.

It is my belief that people who drive slow to achieve high MPG figures are doing the Prius a dis-service. Displaying the Prius to the population as a slow car wont encourage uptake of hybrid technology by the masses, but only adds to the miss-conception that Prius is a 1.5 litre engine in a small/mid size car which equals slow and economical. The concept was suposed to be 2.0 to 2.4L beating performance with sub 1.0L fuel consumption. So why drive at sub 1.0L speeds and acceleration?

Thanks for starting the high consumption thread but sorry I can't join your club, good luck and glad to hear you enjoy the hybrid turbine like performance! Gotta love it!

IsrAmeriPrius · 09-29-2007, 09:06 PM

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Must be the Quebecois' way of life

. Just kidding. [/b]

Je me souviens.

doubleex · 09-30-2007, 08:05 AM

I'm in! I've been reading some of the crazy/rude driving tactics that it takes to squeeze every last mile out of a gallon of gas. Could you imagine the chaos if everybody on the road drove like that? I've played around on some back roads trying to see just what I'd have to do to get these high gas mileage numbers and there's no way I could feel good being such an obstruction to others (and I live in Amish country).

I'm happy that we are getting about 50mpg and polluting a bit less just driving the car like I would drive my regular car. I bought this high-tech car to help me with this compromise otherwise I could ride a bicycle.

On the other hand, I drive a bit nicer in the Prius. It's kinda gutless so undo acceleration is relatively pointless. I'll trim my desire to rocket off the line or race to the next light but I'll keep the goofy stuff to a minimum and never interfere with other drivers who are operating their vehicles legally.

Cheers to the new club!

markderail · 10-01-2007, 12:24 AM

Part of this thread is also to show just how difficult it is to get low mileage.
Even driving the w/o consideration to saving energy will still get you above 35 Mpg + PZEV emissions.

I have the worst conditions, where most of the time I cannot pulse & glide, and my commute to work is less than 5 miles, meaning the ICE stays on for the entire duration of trip.

09-29-2007, 01:08 PM	#1
markderail 4-Seasons Driver Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pierrefonds (Montreal) Quebec Canada Posts: 1,174 My Car: 2006 Prius Package: B Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 2	About time we had our own club ! Let's brag about how we don't Pulse & Glide all the time, drive difficult routes in traffic, stops, lights. How we left lane drive and totally smoke those SUV's, how we don't EVER have a 20 yr old TDI or Civic driver riding on our rear bumper. We Flash To Pass. So if you drive "Sporty" and totally ENJOY the constant power of the VTT, here's your club !!! By driving for the shear pleasure of horsepower and getting from A to B in great time, taking even greater pleasure with the fact that even by driving fast - we're using way less gas than regular cars and the PZEV is still giving out low pollution. Please - no hypermilers post here. I want to share stories on how the day-to-day, to work & back, weekend highway driving, etc. How we enjoy this wonderful car without compromise [EDIT] Before someone tells me I'm wasting gas - whenever I see other Prius drivers, on roads or highways, they drive too slow "trying to hypermile" causing other cars to pass them ! Causing inefficient cars to consume more gas so that the Prius driver gets a little better Mpg. By driving with the flow, and gliding to lights & stops, you make other drivers consume less gas, and be less of a road menace. [EDIT2] My average for the entire month of September is 5.8 liters/100 km = 40.55 miles/gallon(US) __________________ Don't play the new boring forum game, Most Boring Thread...

09-29-2007, 07:30 PM	#7
patsparks Uneducated bird-brain Aussie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Adelaide South Australia Posts: 5,853 My Car: 2004 Prius Package: Base Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 23	Well I hate getting left behind at traffic light drags, so I don't! I'm always the first off the lights and I am always the first up to the speed limit, mostly half throttle gets me there too! I go through 40 sets of traffic lights each way on my daily commute, I'm not exagerating, from Woodcroft to Walkley Heights Adelaide Australia, look it up and count them. I get to work quicker in my Prius than I did in my Camry and getting home is the same story. My daily commute is about 34km each way so the engine is warm a lot. I never stretch the tank for the sake of it, I value the hybrid battery too much for that running out of fuel business, but I still get over 800km from each 40 litre refill! Oh there was one time I didn't make better than 5.0L/100km, that was when I went on a 650km round trip to Port Augusta and back. I traveled at the speed limit of 110km/h except when overtaking or through towns. Most people in South Australia drive at the speed limits which are enforced. When overtaking at one point I got up to 160km/h but normally 140km/h did the job. Still over 700km before I filled up and averaged 5.2L/100km. Pulse and gliders must be a pain in the bum for those around them, and as for following slow trucks to reduce consumption, have you read the threads about stone damage to the bonnet and windscreen of the Prius? Why would you do it to your self? Those fat tyres pick up every little stone and fling them back at you. Unfortunately I can't join the 5.5 to 6.5L/100km club because I always better 5.5L/100km! Even with my rev head ways, racing off lights and passing at up to 100mph I can't drive my average below 5.2L/100km even on a trip. I have never been one to race up to a red light, I have always tried to time the lights to keep the wheels turning even if it is very slowly. I don't tail gate so I have room to drive at a constant pace while others around me are always touching the brakes. Ny normal drive is mostly flat too fortunately, I have one good hill which I climb at 100km/h or a little more with power to spare. At half a tank this hill alone increases my average consumption by 0.1L/100km each time I climb it but by the end of the tank that affect is no longer evident due to higher km on the tank. It is my belief that people who drive slow to achieve high MPG figures are doing the Prius a dis-service. Displaying the Prius to the population as a slow car wont encourage uptake of hybrid technology by the masses, but only adds to the miss-conception that Prius is a 1.5 litre engine in a small/mid size car which equals slow and economical. The concept was suposed to be 2.0 to 2.4L beating performance with sub 1.0L fuel consumption. So why drive at sub 1.0L speeds and acceleration? Thanks for starting the high consumption thread but sorry I can't join your club, good luck and glad to hear you enjoy the hybrid turbine like performance! Gotta love it! __________________ All the warranty I need. And for thrills -> Still averaging 4.4L/100km across town 2004 silver base model Prius Shark fin, genuine mudflaps, colour matched side mouldings, rear bumper scuff guard, sheepskin seats, BT Plate. I love it!

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09-29-2007, 01:32 PM	#2
markderail 4-Seasons Driver Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pierrefonds (Montreal) Quebec Canada Posts: 1,174 My Car: 2006 Prius Package: B Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 2	So, first story. I was headed out of the city to a B & B over 450km away. Out of Montreal to a small town near Rivière-du-loup. Basically, leaving at 4pm on a Friday, some 45 minutes of traffic, then a good 400km of pure highway driving, two lanes on either side. So, FINALLY my chance to join the "High Mpg" club !!! I totally prepared for this, as it doesn't happen often. My daily & weekend commutes contribute to a personal RL average of 5.9l/100. So only my wife with me, minimal baggage, no rack on roof. My tank was naturally low for a Friday - I fill up every 2-3 weeks on average (low mileage per month user). So I put 34 litres, reset all the counters, and we're off! S L O W L Y, Pulse & Gliding in the traffic, nearly always in electric. The first 35 km to exit the city showed a real low graph, my average was 4.2l/100km. Awesome! Once on highway speeds, cruise control set to 103 KM/h - 65 Mph, the entire way! No stopping! 4.8l/100km some 300km later! Awesome! So I get to destination 456km later, a full half tank of gas left. Still at 4.8l/100km. Awesome! We drove around the small towns, always at 50-55 KM/h, the next day, then headed back home, with a stop at city called Levis (across the water from Quebec city). In downtown Levis, just before the Ferry Ride, I refill the gas tank. Still at 4.8l/100km, and the fill up uses....15.1 litres !!! w00t ! We stay for supper in Quebec city, in the old section. Discovered the Soap Store Called LUSH. Awesome! Heavy Rain !!! for the last leg. After five minutes in full rain at 103 KM/h, I'm at 7.0l/100km. So there goes my screenshot to hell, 250km to drive, at night, in a constant downpour. By the time I'm home, my average is now 6.5l/100KM. Now, if I had driven left lane the whole back & forth, following traffic, my average would have been 6.5l/100km, but my trip would have taken nearly an hour less time !!! So now, screw it! I have much more fun passing than being passed. I hate having over 50 large 18 wheeler's pass me on the left, because I'm driving at the posted limit. I rather follow the pack. Another trip I did was Montreal - Moncton, where I did not try for low mileage, but best speed. 3000+ KM in six days, my average was 6.5l/100km, with wife, one 16yr old son, roof rack LOADED plus cooler, and easily 30 pounds of chips/drinks/snacks. So this is plenty good enough for me. The car performs wonderfully even up steep hills to pass. I rather have fun, save hours in travel time, getting 6.5 instead of 5.0l/100km. So, who's with me?

09-29-2007, 05:07 PM	#4
AOV Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Poughkeepsie, NY Posts: 303 My Car: 2007 Prius Package: Base Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Not me either....but probably will soon, unfortunately...with the modifications I have done....damn. I am having a hard time maintaining mid 50's now...before it was a lot better. The mudguards, the hood deflector, the upgraded tires.... and the ever persistent tailgaters.

09-29-2007, 07:23 PM	#6
Tideland Prius Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 14,183 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: B Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 12	I have fun from time and time and yes that screws up my mileage but my lifetime is below 5.0L/100km. Must be the Quebecois' way of life . Just kidding.

09-30-2007, 08:05 AM	#9
doubleex Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	I'm in! I've been reading some of the crazy/rude driving tactics that it takes to squeeze every last mile out of a gallon of gas. Could you imagine the chaos if everybody on the road drove like that? I've played around on some back roads trying to see just what I'd have to do to get these high gas mileage numbers and there's no way I could feel good being such an obstruction to others (and I live in Amish country). I'm happy that we are getting about 50mpg and polluting a bit less just driving the car like I would drive my regular car. I bought this high-tech car to help me with this compromise otherwise I could ride a bicycle. On the other hand, I drive a bit nicer in the Prius. It's kinda gutless so undo acceleration is relatively pointless. I'll trim my desire to rocket off the line or race to the next light but I'll keep the goofy stuff to a minimum and never interfere with other drivers who are operating their vehicles legally. Cheers to the new club!

10-01-2007, 12:24 AM	#10
markderail 4-Seasons Driver Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pierrefonds (Montreal) Quebec Canada Posts: 1,174 My Car: 2006 Prius Package: B Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 2	Part of this thread is also to show just how difficult it is to get low mileage. Even driving the w/o consideration to saving energy will still get you above 35 Mpg + PZEV emissions. I have the worst conditions, where most of the time I cannot pulse & glide, and my commute to work is less than 5 miles, meaning the ICE stays on for the entire duration of trip.