I guess we have all been had.

billynjoanna · 12-26-2007, 08:16 PM

This has to be the biggest bunch of bullsh*t that I have ever seen.

http://watercargift.com/water4gas/2b...tm?hop=tomsdad

Rangerdavid · 12-26-2007, 08:27 PM

Wait a minute!! you mean it doesn't work? and I just ordered one!*^)&^$*&^

KAR IDEA · 12-26-2007, 08:47 PM

Can anyone out there (preferrably with a good deal of knowledge in the appropo sciences) tell us if this would actually work?!

heh heh...

Perhaps I could install one in my head, and utilize more brain power!

FL_Prius_Driver · 12-26-2007, 08:59 PM

This will work. Here is the equation:

1) There is sucker born every minute (Quote by someone famous and rich)

2) The set of books cost 97 bucks (Website price)

3) A fool and his money are soon parted (I heard that somewhere)

SO:

1 fool/min x $97 x 100% = $5820/hour.

You could afford a Hydrogen car with that cash flow.

**TonyPSchaefer** · 12-26-2007, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAR IDEA

Can anyone out there (preferrably with a good deal of knowledge in the appropo sciences) tell us if this would actually work?!

heh heh...

If you ask me, this is a job for. . .

**Tideland Prius** · 12-26-2007, 09:10 PM

I didn't know you can "burn" water

alanh · 12-26-2007, 09:16 PM

MythBusters did actually test a hydrogen generator. It produced minuscule amounts of hydrogen, not nearly enough to run the car.

madler · 12-26-2007, 09:40 PM

Actually, it's not completely crazy. What this guy is selling is obviously snake oil, but the basic approach can work.

It's called hydrogen fuel injection, and has been around for many years as a way to improve mileage (a little) and reduce emissions. Just like this guy's system, you use distilled water and some electricity from the alternator to make some hydrogen, and then mix it with the fuel. It improves the combustion of the fuel to get more energy out of the fuel. And that improvement pays for the energy you used to electrolyze the water, and then some. Here is one company that installs these systems in semi trucks. They claim (much more realistically than the snake oil guy) 10% improvements in mileage. When you haul stuff in semis, it doesn't take very long for a 10% improvement to pay for the system. It doesn't use much distilled water -- a gallon lasts for 6,000 miles.

I've heard that the word is getting around, and these systems are getting popular with the truckers.

patsparks · 12-26-2007, 10:50 PM

Does anyone who doesn't have a vested interest in selling something, back this technology? I believe it's snake oil.

galaxee · 12-26-2007, 10:59 PM

wow all the highly accurate information...

Quote:

Product: Hybrid Car
Your investment $17,000

Reduce emissions Not on highway!

Noise Reduction Not on highway!

Monthly Operation (1) expensive batteries every 5 years
You Save Monthly (2) $29.90
You Save Yearly (2) $359
Time to cover investment 47 Years

12-26-2007, 08:16 PM	#1
billynjoanna Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 8 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	I guess we have all been had. This has to be the biggest bunch of bullsh*t that I have ever seen. http://watercargift.com/water4gas/2b...tm?hop=tomsdad

12-26-2007, 08:27 PM	#2
Rangerdavid Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boone, North Carolina Posts: 1,112 My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #5 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 12	Re: I guess we have all been had. Wait a minute!! you mean it doesn't work? and I just ordered one!^)&^$&^

12-26-2007, 08:47 PM	#3
KAR IDEA Fuzzy Westchester NY Moderator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Yonkers, NY USA Posts: 385 My Car: 2008 Prius Package: #3 Touring Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 13	Re: I guess we have all been had. Can anyone out there (preferrably with a good deal of knowledge in the appropo sciences) tell us if this would actually work?! heh heh... Perhaps I could install one in my head, and utilize more brain power! Last edited by KAR IDEA; 12-27-2007 at 09:37 AM.

12-26-2007, 08:59 PM	#4
FL_Prius_Driver Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 1,361 My Car: 2001 Prius Package: N/A Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Re: I guess we have all been had. This will work. Here is the equation: 1) There is sucker born every minute (Quote by someone famous and rich) 2) The set of books cost 97 bucks (Website price) 3) A fool and his money are soon parted (I heard that somewhere) SO: 1 fool/min x $97 x 100% = $5820/hour. You could afford a Hydrogen car with that cash flow.

12-26-2007, 09:10 PM	#6
Tideland Prius Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 14,171 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: B Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 12	Re: I guess we have all been had. I didn't know you can "burn" water

12-26-2007, 09:16 PM	#7
alanh Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 706 My Car: 2007 Prius Package: #5 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Re: I guess we have all been had. MythBusters did actually test a hydrogen generator. It produced minuscule amounts of hydrogen, not nearly enough to run the car.

12-26-2007, 09:40 PM	#8
madler Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pasadena, California Posts: 269 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: #4 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Re: I guess we have all been had. Actually, it's not completely crazy. What this guy is selling is obviously snake oil, but the basic approach can work. It's called hydrogen fuel injection, and has been around for many years as a way to improve mileage (a little) and reduce emissions. Just like this guy's system, you use distilled water and some electricity from the alternator to make some hydrogen, and then mix it with the fuel. It improves the combustion of the fuel to get more energy out of the fuel. And that improvement pays for the energy you used to electrolyze the water, and then some. Here is one company that installs these systems in semi trucks. They claim (much more realistically than the snake oil guy) 10% improvements in mileage. When you haul stuff in semis, it doesn't take very long for a 10% improvement to pay for the system. It doesn't use much distilled water -- a gallon lasts for 6,000 miles. I've heard that the word is getting around, and these systems are getting popular with the truckers.

12-26-2007, 10:50 PM	#9
patsparks Uneducated bird-brain Aussie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Adelaide South Australia Posts: 5,845 My Car: 2004 Prius Package: Base Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 23	Re: I guess we have all been had. Does anyone who doesn't have a vested interest in selling something, back this technology? I believe it's snake oil.