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Old 08-15-2008, 02:03 PM   #11
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are you kidding about the 2008 package 4? just wondering because my jaw just dropped when i read it.
The problem with the 2008s has been known for at least three years.

HA! I should write for The Onion!!

YES, I was kidding. Everyone calm down, there's nothing wrong with any of the Prii. I just wanted to buy a new 2008 #4 for cheap.

Mean? Perhaps.
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Old 08-15-2008, 03:39 PM   #12
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You know that Gladys Knight never had a damn problem with those PIPS.....

They were always there, on key and dancing in Sync!!!


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Oh, by the way I average 140 miles before the first Pip Pops!!!

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Old 08-15-2008, 05:28 PM   #13
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are you kidding about the 2008 package 4? just wondering because my jaw just dropped when i read it.
Yeah, stick around here and you'll get used to Tony and Pat's sense of humor.

I think of the first pip as about 2-3 gallons (if the tank is completely filled, which does not happen in winter due to the flexible bladder, better to think of it as 1-2 gallons then). Then after the first pip goes, each next one is nearly a gallon's worth.

So 3 gallons should move you up 3 or 4 pips. You went up 5 pips, so maybe it barely was on two pips when you started, or barely made it to 7 pips? Anyway, not too far off of the expected.

Down to 2 gallons, time to fill up again. Some people push their luck with getting down to one blinking pip, but that's dangerous. They do call it a guess gauge for a reason. If you run out of gas, you can go a short distance on the battery only, but if you push it too far, you run down the battery below the safety zone, and the life of the battery is severely damaged.

Also, don't overfill the tank, that can damage emissions controls. I usually go to the second click, but stopping on the first click is probably better (unless you know it was premature click-off - rule of thumb: if you're getting about 50 mpg, then double your miles on the tank and knock off two zeros - eg. 400 miles will require about 8 gallons to refill, 380 miles will be 7.6 gallons).
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Old 08-18-2008, 12:36 AM   #14
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For the first 100 miles on this new tank I was getting 56mpg. Then I had to transport a lot of heavy furniture over long distances and it dropped by 10.

I've decided to commute to work via side streets rather than the highway. That will have to bring it back up. I'm a master at the pulse/glide when going around 35-40. I actually did pretty well with the stealth glide on the highway by identifying declines in the road. I'm going up the whole way to work, so it's not worth it. Maybe on the ride back I'll take it.
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I'm going up the whole way to work, so it's not worth it. Maybe on the ride back I'll take it.
After a full summer I suspected that my evening commute was slightly uphill. With a topographic map I was able to prove it.

My morning drive almost always yields higher mileage due to the downhill nature. On the drive home I'm happy if I can maintain the average mileage.
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Oh, by the way I average 140 miles before the first Pip Pops!!!
Pat:

Did you add that info on to my poll: Max Miles on First Pip?

Thanks for the help!
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:42 AM   #17
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For a little while there I thought we were on PCbay.

My rule so you don't have to follow it. Regardless of what I think I am not really god of the whole world. Fill up at 2 pips or rectangles or segments on the gauge. It isn't a dreadful imposition to fill at this point, after all my last car got 33% less miles on a fill and each fill was 50% more fuel.

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Did you add that info on to my poll: Max Miles on First Pip?

Thanks for the help!

I did not know you had a poll, But I have put my 10 Pips worth in!!

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Ha, I was aware of the pip issue before I made this thread. It just irritated me. My baby is going nowhere. I've discovered the backroads to work are very good for my mpgs. I went from 44.2 mpg (after 50 miles of transporting 400 pounds of furniture and a passenger) to 48.7mpg in one day. I should be back to the 50's by tomorrow. Hopefully I can pull 53.5 before my next fill.

I friggin love this car, regardless of the crap my friends give me for it.
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After a full summer I suspected that my evening commute was slightly uphill. With a topographic map I was able to prove it.

My morning drive almost always yields higher mileage due to the downhill nature. On the drive home I'm happy if I can maintain the average mileage.
My morning drive gets better mileage than my afternoon because I run into heavy traffic sooner and am able to glide or warp stealth sooner. On the way home I have to go several miles before the traffic backs up.

The other day we had a small "Pri Parade" going northbound on the Tri State--3 of us in a row!
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