Headlight problem

[NewInNC]

I'm still (strongly) considering purchasing a Prius, but this headlight issue is a decider, both for what it says about Toyota's overall quality and because headlights are important to me. I guess these problematic HID headlights only come Standard with the "Touring" model. Are the regular headlights on the non-Touring model OK?

[lsmike]

Originally Posted by NewInNC

I'm still (strongly) considering purchasing a Prius, but this headlight issue is a decider, both for what it says about Toyota's overall quality and because headlights are important to me. I guess these problematic HID headlights only come Standard with the "Touring" model. Are the regular headlights on the non-Touring model OK?

My input is buy the car. Not all the cars have the problem and Toy is no longer shipping the car with bad headlights. The higher the price of gas goes the happier I am I bought mine. Another interesting thing is that with the Prius, I don't have to shop for the right price any more as putting only six gallons in it doesn't result in much difference between stations. I do a 150 mile commute to San Diego and back daily, with a lot of hills thrown in, and now average about 52mpg.

As to the Touring question, I don't know. I got the highest 2007 package, designated by a number, which I forget. I vaguely recall one with better looking wheels, but thought at the time they were dealer installed. Buy one, you'll be happy with it.....mike

[Michou]

Originally Posted by jamesbalch

By the way, I don't see any way of replacing those lamps without taking the lamps assemblies out. To GET THEM OUT, you must do as the manual says and remove the front bumper cover.

That is the most ASSININE thing I have EVER heard of IN MY LIFE. The only possible reason I can come up with for Toyota engineers to make owners have to do that is because they were afraid of the liability of having some do-it-yourself owner electrocuting themselves due to the high voltage used in the headlight system.

In response to the above, yeah, the prius headlamp design is assinine, however, you do not have to remove the front bumper to replace the headlamps. I'm going to give a step by step how to as I have done a couple headlamp replacements in various prii, 04 to 08.

For starters, it is a very good idea to disconnect the negative battery cable from the 12 v battery, and wait 10 or 15 minutes for things to discharge.

After that, start on the drivers side by removing the fuse box cover, then, the connector which supplys power to the headlamp. It is a simple snap connector. Next, turn the black pastic cover on the back of the headlamp assembly counter-clockwise to remove, clockwise to tighten. This is usually a bear to remove, so I've learned to use the back of a good sized screwdriver to get it to turn. Once you've loosened the back housing cover, you will need to remove the connector on the back of the bulb, turn it counter-clockwise, do this gently as you don't want to break or damage it.

After the above, you will need to remove the retaining clips that hold the bulb in place, they are on either side of the bulb and aren't very difficult to unfasten. Once you have the clips unfastened, you should be able to pull the bulb straight out without any difficulty. If the bulb isn't coming out easily, double check that you have removed everything mentioned above.

Once the bulb is out, you will need to be very careful with the new one as any oils from your fingers on the glass will cause the bulb to get too hot and fail/blow. I recommend using either latex or nitrile gloves to install the new bulb/s.

On the passenger side, you need to remove a small section of the black plastic air vent which is right next to the front of the winshield washer fluid reservoir, one snap fastener is all that holds it in place, so once you remove that, just lift it straight up and out.

From there, the same steps from above apply for removing the passenger side headlamp bulb.

Good luck and be patient, and most importantly, if something seems stuck or unable to be removed, stop what you are doing, take a closer look at what you are trying to remove/install, and think it through. Whatever you do, don't force it.

Cheers,

Michou

[jrmason]

Hi

I have an '06 that is starting to have the headlight problem. Same as most of the posts the passenger side headlight just goes out after a few minutes or so. Sometimes turning the lights off and on again fixes the problem.

I wonder if going with regular halogen headlight assemblys (e-bay $125 a side) and making up a new headlight harness and go back to the good ol' halogen bulbs. They may not be as bright but, are no way near as much trouble to buy or replace. One thing I noticed about the replacement headlights in this particular auction was they only fit cars up to the build date of 11/05. I wonder what the change was....

Since the car is still under warranty I'll bring it in for the fantastic Toyota techs to fix. After that I might be replacing the headlights with more reliable halogens myself.

Jon

[jamesbalch]

Michou,

Thanks very much.

[jrmason]

Hi,

Well thanks to Michou getting to the bulbs wasn't so bad. Getting the driver side light cover off was a real challenge.

I ended up swapping the bulbs from right to left to see if the problem goes to the other side. So far no outages (it figures). I guess only time will tell.

By the looks of things bad connections at the bulb could be the problem.

I talked to Toyota and got the old "hmm, strange we'd have to check it out" line.

Jon

[PDWadler]

I have a 2006 Prius with Package 6 and I'm having the same headlight problem everyone else is complaining about. I took my car into the dealer on Tuesday because the "check engine" light was on. Turns out I had screwed up the gascap, so that turned out to be no big deal. However, as I pulled into the dealership, the service guy said I had a headlight out and since I was still under warranty, he'd go ahead and fix it. I hadn't noticed the headlight was out. He said the bulb itself was $600 (which I guess was a lie, since I've read on here it is more like $350...whatever). OK, he fixed my car and did the 30K tune-up for which I got charged $800. I'm getting a little suspicious, but I went ahead with it because this dealer has been taking care of my car since I got it almost 2 years ago. Last night when I got home, I noticed the headlight was out again. I called today (I hadn't checked this forum yet) and he said he knew just what the problem was. Toyota just issued a new bulletin that said when you replace the bulb, DON'T replace the computer chip that goes with it. He says that must be the problem. Mine is the first Prius to come in since the bulletin and he just has to replace the computer hich should just take half an hour.

Does this guy know what he's talking about, or am I getting the runaround?? Was there some kind of bulletin issued in the last week or so about headlights??

[DGH]

$800 for 30K service, along with the techs comments are a cause for BIG concern on your part.

Please read the below link for 30K service info.

http://priuschat.com/forums/care-mai...ce-prices.html

[PDWadler]

Jeez! Now I really feel like an idiot! I wish I would ave thought to check this board before I agreed to the repairs. Do you think it would do any good to call Toyota and complain? By the way, don't trust Northside Toyota in Chicago!!!!!! I'm never going there for service again.

[DGH]

I would talk to the dealerships general manager and follow up with a call to Toyota.

Good luck!...Dan.

And yes, time for a new dealer.