You are here: PriusChat Forums


Go Back   PriusChat Forums > Gen II (2004-2009) Toyota Prius Forums > Gen II Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting
Connect with Facebook

This is a discussion on Bucking bronco upon acceleration within the Gen II Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting forums, part of the Gen II (2004-2009) Toyota Prius Forums category; This has only happened to me once, last weekend. I was at a yield sign, slowed to about 5 mph, ...


Bucking bronco upon acceleration

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 09-25-2007, 03:39 PM   #1
abq sfr
Senior Member
 
abq sfr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 673
My Car: 2007 Prius
Model:
Package: #2
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Friends: 1
Default

This has only happened to me once, last weekend. I was at a yield sign, slowed to about 5 mph, and accelerated probably at 30-40% go pedal when the car started bucking like a bronco, like the power was cutting in and out every 1/4 second. Within a second or 2 I released the go pedal and tapped the brakes and it stopped. Never got any warnings on the dash. I'm not sure how warmed up the car was, I had driven it a long way about an hour before, and was around 2 miles from home when it happened. I hope it doesn't happen again, anybody ever experience something similar???
__________________
Click the image to open in full size.
abq sfr is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2007, 06:23 PM   #2
galaxee
resident lab rat
 
galaxee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: boilermaker territory
Posts: 9,676
My Car: 2005 Prius
Model: N/A
Package: #5
Thanks: 0
Thanked 94 Times in 37 Posts
Friends: 26
Default

my first thought from memory is to check the spark plugs. DH should be home within the hour, he'll know more than i do.
galaxee is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2007, 06:40 PM   #3
oxnardprof
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Oxnard, CA
Posts: 196
My Car: 2004 Prius
Model:
Package: N/A
Thanks: 2
Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts
Friends: 0
Default

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(abq sfr @ Sep 25 2007, 02:39 PM) [snapback]517529[/snapback]</div>
Quote:
This has only happened to me once, last weekend. I was at a yield sign, slowed to about 5 mph, and accelerated probably at 30-40% go pedal when the car started bucking like a bronco, like the power was cutting in and out every 1/4 second. Within a second or 2 I released the go pedal and tapped the brakes and it stopped. Never got any warnings on the dash. I'm not sure how warmed up the car was, I had driven it a long way about an hour before, and was around 2 miles from home when it happened. I hope it doesn't happen again, anybody ever experience something similar???
[/b]
Could it be the anti-skid system? I notice a hesitation if I am turning right onto a busy street, and accelerate too rapidly - the car sort of hesitates or shudders.
oxnardprof is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2007, 08:02 PM   #4
galaxee
resident lab rat
 
galaxee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: boilermaker territory
Posts: 9,676
My Car: 2005 Prius
Model: N/A
Package: #5
Thanks: 0
Thanked 94 Times in 37 Posts
Friends: 26
Default

sounds like traction control, really, but if there were no lights...

if it were ABS, you'd hear it.

spark plugs, MAF sensor, etc would set a code. misfires would set a code immediately.

if it were the steering angle sensor it wouldn't apply anti-skid until you hit 9 mph.

any chance you could have set off the traction control? that puts you in a panic situation and maybe you missed the TC light? just speculating here.
galaxee is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2007, 08:07 PM   #5
qbee42
Senior Member
 
qbee42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Northern Michigan
Posts: 10,492
My Car: 2006 Prius
Model:
Package: #7
Thanks: 95
Thanked 392 Times in 290 Posts
Friends: 10
Default

Traction control is also my guess. The light can flicker on and off pretty fast.

Tom
qbee42 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2007, 10:39 AM   #6
abq sfr
Senior Member
 
abq sfr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 673
My Car: 2007 Prius
Model:
Package: #2
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Friends: 1
Default

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(qbee42 @ Sep 25 2007, 06:07 PM) [snapback]517669[/snapback]</div>
Quote:
Traction control is also my guess. The light can flicker on and off pretty fast.

Tom
[/b]
Traction control never even crossed my mind since I go through there every weekday morning without it happening, the road is level homogeneous pavement and never wet, and I was not accelerating hard. It is a very gradual right turn though. If that's what happens when TC randomly kicks in, they better do a recall. Car only has around 6000 miles.
abq sfr is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2007, 10:54 AM   #7
Hobbs
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Glasgow, UK
Posts: 81
My Car: 2006 Prius
Model:
Package: T Spirit
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Friends: 0
Default

I had a problem like that in a VW Sirocco years ago.

It was because of the resistance in the go pedal. I would press go. The acceleration of the car would mean I was applying less pressure on the go pedal. This inturn slowed the car accelerating at which point the tension in my ankle, or whatever would then apply more pressure on the accelerator again. (A bit like a negative feedback loop)

This happened a few times in that car but never on the 4 or 5 I have had since.

Hobbs is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2007, 11:02 AM   #8
richard schumacher
Destination: Eschaton
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 5,516
My Car: 2004 Prius
Model: N/A
Package: #6
Thanks: 100
Thanked 93 Times in 66 Posts
Friends: 0
Default

Loose gravel, certain kinds of lane striping, and oil can also cause the anti-skid to kick in.
richard schumacher is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2007, 12:23 PM   #9
donee
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 2,244
My Car: 2006 Prius
Model:
Package: #2
Thanks: 2
Thanked 54 Times in 47 Posts
Friends: 0
Default

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Hobbs @ Sep 26 2007, 11:54 AM) [snapback]517868[/snapback]</div>
Quote:
I had a problem like that in a VW Sirocco years ago.

It was because of the resistance in the go pedal. I would press go. The acceleration of the car would mean I was applying less pressure on the go pedal. This inturn slowed the car accelerating at which point the tension in my ankle, or whatever would then apply more pressure on the accelerator again. (A bit like a negative feedback loop)

This happened a few times in that car but never on the 4 or 5 I have had since.
[/b]
Actually a positive feedback loop. Positive feedback reinforces an oscillation, negative damps it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(abq sfr @ Sep 26 2007, 11:39 AM) [snapback]517861[/snapback]</div>
Quote:
Traction control never even crossed my mind since I go through there every weekday morning without it happening, the road is level homogeneous pavement and never wet, and I was not accelerating hard. It is a very gradual right turn though. If that's what happens when TC randomly kicks in, they better do a recall. Car only has around 6000 miles.
[/b]
Hi Abq sfr,

The Prius has allot more torque at really low speeds. A patch of oil, that is worn away the next day could do it. There really is nothing random to the TC, other than the road you are on, unless there is a defect somewhere.

My SL2 had a cracked hub which caused the TC to brake very jittery. At least that is what they told me when they fixed it under waranty.

donee is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2007, 12:33 PM   #10
donee
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 2,244
My Car: 2006 Prius
Model:
Package: #2
Thanks: 2
Thanked 54 Times in 47 Posts
Friends: 0
Default

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(richard schumacher @ Sep 29 2007, 12:02 PM) [snapback]519011[/snapback]</div>
Quote:
Loose gravel, certain kinds of lane striping, and oil can also cause the anti-skid to kick in.
[/b]
Some other PC posters have had an issue with the VSC when turning in. I think it has to do with the chasis stiffness issue. The chassis flexes because its made with high strength (springy) metal. The flex is detected by the VSC yaw sensor, which then gets into an oscillatory response with the car. Before I put on a BT Tech plate, turning in over a reverse camber surface would cause an understeer. I do not have VSC, but any yaw sensor (human or otherwise) would sense that easily. The car did not come out of understeer until it was well down in speed - 15 mph or so. So, VSC would be oscillating all the way down to 15 mph.





donee is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply
Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Uncontrolled Acceleration Tripod137 Gen II Prius Main Forum 39 11-20-2009 06:17 PM
White Ford Bronco Be Darned boulder_bum Gen II Prius Main Forum 5 11-13-2007 06:15 PM
Acceleration rfloyd7522 Gen II Prius Main Forum 27 06-27-2007 06:32 PM
best acceleration technique kdk84 Gen II Prius Fuel Economy 3 04-30-2007 08:21 AM
Acceleration and mpg alanhu99 Gen II Prius Main Forum 25 03-02-2005 05:44 PM


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2