block heater

[go4less]

I have 6 weeks B4 my 2008 arrives and I have been reading a lot of posts about block heaters. My understanding was that the Prius has a thermal bottle that keeps the coolant hot over night.(Infact up to 3 days ) What is the purpose of this if a block heater is still required?

[Rokeby]

go4less,

The thermos keeps some of the ICE coolant warmer than if it were sitting in
the radiator/engine block. But in winter/freezing temps, I wouldn't call it all
that "hot."

Here are some numbers from memory from last winter, temp readings from
my ScanGauge: Outside temps ~40 deg F. Coolant temp before start up 40
deg. On start up, coolant temp jumps to ~110 deg. (Coolant temp sensor is
apparently at the top of the block and near where the coolant from the
thermos comes in.) As coolant circulates, temp drops to ~84 deg.

Ok, this is better that 40 deg, but still a long way from 154 deg, which is
one of the thresholds to getting full use of "no arrows" glide and engine shut
down at stops. With a block heater on for about three hours before start up,
coolant/block temps are at or real near that sacred, 154 deg. All of this is
about getting through the massive MPG reduction as you climb up through
the Five Mythical/Mystical (Mystery Tour) States of ICE/HSD warm up.

Now, I don't yet have a block heater, but I've read enough here to
understand that it will be to my great MPG and $$$ advantage to get one
before this coming winter.

[Edit] Oh yeah, if its cold enough to be running a block heater, you should also
have grill blocks installed. (Use the search function to ferret out info on this.)
But, to be absolutely safe and not run coolant temps up too high, over~205
deg F, you should also have a ScanGuage. Both heater and SG available from
the PriusChat store.

Hope this helps.

[philmcneal]

the coolant thermos is pathetic if CANVIEW doesn't lie to me, in the summer it works decent however, a EBH really just renders the whole system useless. Doesn't surprise me its only used in the 04-08 priuses and not the TCH and the Hihy.

What happen sis when the hot coolant circulates the cold dead engine, the engine absorbs most of that heat and then the difference in temperature barely changes. Much better just to heat up the block.