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Old 10-27-2008, 07:42 PM   #1
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I recently bought a new smart key, and then took the car to the dealer for programming. The key seemed to work okay, although occasionally it seemed reluctant to unlock the car. Now it seldom works correctly, and will rarely remotely unlock or lock the car, although it is somewhat better at locking than unlocking. Reaching for the door handle normally works okay.

Our other key (I bought the car used, with only one key) works fine.

So, what's the problem? One of the following?

1. The smart key is defective.
2. The battery is already dying, at two months of age.
3. The programming job was botched somehow.
4. Something else?

I should also mention that I replaced the aux battery a few days ago, but I can't say the behavior of the key was different following the change. Maybe it's a bit worse now. I used a keep alive power source during the battery replacement to prevent problems with the radio or power windows.

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Old 10-28-2008, 06:01 AM   #2
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Default Re: Flakey Smart Key?

5. you are keeping it in the same pocket as a cellular phone or near one
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Old 10-28-2008, 10:12 PM   #3
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Default Re: Flakey Smart Key?

Unfortunately, the key doesn't work, even without a cell phone nearby. And now, the car doesn't work so well either, my son having been sideswiped by a bus. Well, it drives just fine, but they're going to replace the LR quarter panel, rear bumper, and wheel.
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:29 AM   #4
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isn't that where one of the smart key antennas are? make sure they replace that, heh
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Old 11-02-2008, 12:55 PM   #5
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Default Re: Flakey Smart Key?

1. The smart key is defective.

I'm leaning towards this one.

2. The battery is already dying, at two months of age.

Unlikely. They should be good for years.

3. The programming job was botched somehow.

The immobilizer should do the same thing with the same fob every time. If the immobilizer was flakey I'd expect it to be equally flakey with every fob. Can you swap the new fob for another one?

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isn't that where one of the smart key antennas are? make sure they replace that


If the antenna is that small flat plastic rectangle, then it is inside the car in front of the trunk, not in a fender or bumper.

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Old 11-13-2008, 08:08 PM   #6
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I just replaced the key battery with the only one I had handy--out of another smart key. Now it works fine. The battery out of my 'new' smart key, purchased about 3 months ago, showed only 2.80 volts on my dvm--and evidently was already tired out.

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Dealer says change battery every year in smart key Is he right?
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Old 11-14-2008, 02:16 AM   #8
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Can you swap the new fob for another one?

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isn't that where one of the smart key antennas are? make sure they replace that


If the antenna is that small flat plastic rectangle, then it is inside the car in front of the trunk, not in a fender or bumper.[/QUOTE]

there are sensors in the fenders, doors or bumpers, to detect if the key is outside.... i think there is like 4 or 5 something
sensors scattered around the car


try locking your keys in your car on the drivers seat. if you press the lock button on the door and leave the key in each of the detection zones, you can rule out antennas or a problem with the key, heh

keep a window rolled down

(use the lock tab or power door lock to lock the car, pressing the remote control lock button is not valid for this test)
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Old 11-14-2008, 09:21 AM   #9
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Default Re: Flakey Smart Key?

If I was unclear, the problem is solved. New battery fixed the key. I just didn't expect the battery to be dead after only three months--and it began acting weak after only a month or so. Thought those lithium batteries had a longer shelf life.
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Old 11-14-2008, 02:09 PM   #10
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where'd u get the smart key from. I also bought a used Prius, and I want the smart key, but I only have a FOB key right now. And how much dis u pay for urs (please provide a breakdown of the actual cost of the key and the Toyota charge of installing it) thanx!
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