Prius died randomly today, TSB EG047?

[BoostedTimmy]

Today I had 3 pips of gas left, car dies for no reason in traffic and forces me to run EV only, stopped at a gas station and the car wont restart. Had it towed to Toyota, they said it was flashing 1 pip so they put 3 gallons in it....still no start.

I went to the car tonight with my spare to remove the EV button mod just to avoid any BS the dealer might try to pull , I noticed the deal had written on reciept paper

"c2315,p3190,40293 - 2 times,p0705,p0852,p0a0f,p3102"

that's a lot of codes, most of them when searched on the forum lead me to TSB EG047, but, I bought this prius used and the carfax showed it was taken to the dealer religiously, is it possible they never preformed the tsb, or is there something much worse wrong with my car?

[BoostedTimmy]

Dealers saying the fuel pump went bad, they want over 700 dollars to fix it because they say it's contained in the fuel tank so it all has to be replaced. Needless to say, I'm not happy. Can't find much information on this, can anyone advise?

[qbee42]

The fuel pump is located inside of the tank. I'll let someone else look up the codes.

Tom

[BoostedTimmy]

Originally Posted by qbee42

The fuel pump is located inside of the tank. I'll let someone else look up the codes.

Tom

I just got off the phone with another dealer because this seems strange to me...the codes match up with the TSB, and when waiting for the tow truck I ran both batterys very low, which would explain the other codes. I called another dealer and they said the TSB was never performed on my car, but it's VIN puts it in the affected units....

Last night when I disconnected the battery to reset the codes the car turned on and ran the engine for warm up then errored out again, if I really wasn't getting fuel pressure I wouldn't have been able to do this twice and the engine still be running smooth like it was.

I think I'm getting the run around at this dealer, maybe they think I'm an idiot because of the "Police Interceptor" badge on the back and the NOS plate on the front....maybe I am an idiot...whatever the case I'll be sure to update this thread.

[qbee42]

Sounds like a runaround.

Tom

[donee]

Hi BT,

Engine Running, then Killing on power up happens when the throttle body is dirty too. Might be the problem, but give it a shot and see what happens. Look around on this site for instructions on how to clean the throttle body. At your car's age, its due for a throttle body cleaning.

[Patrick Wong]

Originally Posted by BoostedTimmy

...Last night when I disconnected the battery to reset the codes the car turned on and ran the engine for warm up then errored out again, if I really wasn't getting fuel pressure I wouldn't have been able to do this twice and the engine still be running smooth like it was.

How long did the engine run? If it "ran" for only several seconds, then it is more likely that MG1 was spinning the engine during that time, and the engine did not actually start.

If the engine did start and ran for a reasonable length of time, then I agree that it does not sound like the fuel pump is at fault. To be sure you would have to disconnect the fuel line where it attaches to the injector rail and measure fuel system pressure.

[BoostedTimmy]

Originally Posted by Patrick Wong

How long did the engine run? If it "ran" for only several seconds, then it is more likely that MG1 was spinning the engine during that time, and the engine did not actually start.

If the engine did start and ran for a reasonable length of time, then I agree that it does not sound like the fuel pump is at fault. To be sure you would have to disconnect the fuel line where it attaches to the injector rail and measure fuel system pressure.

Each time I disconnected the battery and reconnected it, it would start like it normally would for the first time of the day, then after the warm up cycle the dash just lights up...ready light turns off and won't turn back on again, car wont shift into D only N etc... Sounded normal, but I suppose it's definitely possible it was simply being spun. The one time I was in the car and it started, the MFD showed the HV Battery was recieving a charge from the engine, but does that just show up regardless?

[BoostedTimmy]

Originally Posted by BoostedTimmy

Each time I disconnected the battery and reconnected it, it would start like it normally would for the first time of the day, then after the warm up cycle the dash just lights up...ready light turns off and won't turn back on again, car wont shift into D only N etc... Sounded normal, but I suppose it's definitely possible it was simply being spun. The one time I was in the car and it started, the MFD showed the HV Battery was recieving a charge from the engine, but does that just show up regardless?

I asked them to simply apply the TSB and let me tow the car away, however, they claim that they cannot apply to TSB without the gas engine running. Since It's an ECU reflash, and the entire TSB exists because the condition causes the engine not to be able to run I know this isnt true (how could you ever fix it lol), but I called two other dealers to be sure and they agreed it can still be done and they would do it.

I'm going to try and talk to the service manager, but even if they are correct with their diagnosis they have still lied to me about the TSB for one reason or another....

[philobeddoe]

well, don't play jim rockford, just go to a new dealer, and try to negotiate a make good on the repair if you can