I now understand the limits of the Goodyear Integritys

**Tideland Prius** · 07-10-2005, 02:59 AM

I now understand why some of you say the stock tyres are crappy. No, I didn't crash the car but VSC did engage. The road was damp from a rain shower and I was making a left turn. Didn't check the speed but it was over 20km/h (most likely). I was running the yellow (distance too short to brake before the line so I ran it) and the street was quite wide (3 lanes on both side plus boulevard). THe moment I turned left, I could hear the TRAC working as the car dipped and dive as the wheels braked. Finally, VSC engaged as the beep sounded and I managed to turn into the proper lane.

Yes, speed and damped conditions may be a factor but I didn't expect the tyres to give up so easily. That and the Prius really wants to keep you out of trouble. Not even a tyre squeal was heard.

Bill Merchant · 07-10-2005, 03:23 AM

[font=Comic Sans MS:47e22fbffa]Three words: Goodyear ComforTred tires.[/font:47e22fbffa]

Emilyjohn · 07-10-2005, 06:09 AM

Tideland, are you sure the road surface wasn't oily? I enjoy taking curves and corners pretty fast and haven't yet experienced any problems with the stock tires in either wet or dry weather.

flareak · 07-10-2005, 06:44 AM

ive actually taken a turn at 45 mph... happens when you've only got package 4 (aka no nav) and you're looking for a turn on the roads next to the highways

nothing happened... just was sad to push my car like that

**TonyPSchaefer** · 07-10-2005, 10:27 AM

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No, I didn't crash the car but VSC did engage.

Don't take this the wrong way, but when I saw your subject my initial thought was, "what'd Tideland do to his car?"

tomdeimos · 07-10-2005, 10:44 AM

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I now understand why some of you say the stock tyres are crappy. No, I didn't crash the car but VSC did engage. The road was damp from a rain shower and I was making a left turn. Didn't check the speed but it was over 20km/h (most likely). I was running the yellow (distance too short to brake before the line so I ran it) and the street was quite wide (3 lanes on both side plus boulevard). THe moment I turned left, I could hear the TRAC working as the car dipped and dive as the wheels braked. Finally, VSC engaged as the beep sounded and I managed to turn into the proper lane.

Yes, speed and damped conditions may be a factor but I didn't expect the tyres to give up so easily. That and the Prius really wants to keep you out of trouble. Not even a tyre squeal was heard.

That's one of the things that got me to switch tires. My biggest problem on wet roads is on local on ramps that look like asphalt over buried bricks. Rear tires get airborne easily over each bump.

The second reason I changed was in deep puddles I found the tires hydroplaned easier than anything I've had before, other than completely worn out tires.

Third reason was I can't handle the bumpy ride with the high tire pressure. My new tires I can use extra pressure for mileage, and still get a better ride than the Integrity tires at Toyota pressure. Much quieter too.

**Tideland Prius** · 07-10-2005, 12:15 PM

Thanks for the response guys. A corner isn't the same as a left turn. My left turn was basically a 90° turn while a corner can be 10-50°. It wasn't a sweeping left turn to put it in other words. It was possible that oil could be present but it rained overnight and that morning had a few showers.

Bill, I would switch except my tyres already have 13,000kms on it. Who'd buy tyres with 13,000kms? I've tried looking for ComforTreds to replace the Camry's tyres but no one around here sell them. Is it only available in the US or did I just have bad timing?

Tony, hence I wrote that line you quoted

hehe.

Frank Hudon · 07-10-2005, 12:56 PM

so you found the limit. I'll change the tires on the wife's 2k4 probably this fall, before the monsoons set in. There is one spot on Boundary Road that kicks in the trac and will shurly get her hit one day. I'm thinking of HydroEdge for our wetter climate. Like the 1" of rain we got in 45 minutes yesterday afternoon. And yes I parked in the far corner of the mall parking lot.

**Tideland Prius** · 07-10-2005, 04:47 PM

Yep. Never thought I would in any car as I'm not the aggressive type but apparently I did. Haha, Boundary. I assume you mean the hill down from 49th/Imperial to SW Marine?

HydroEdge is a unidirectional tyre. I didn't realise that until an STS with a set of those parked next to me. Does it wear out faster? I was thinking either the HydroEdge or maybe the MXM4 for the Camry. It's in dire need of replacement and I hope my dad can get it replaced before winter arrives.

jamarimutt · 07-10-2005, 07:43 PM

The stock tires are fine for me, no problems at all at 22,000 miles.

07-10-2005, 02:59 AM	#1
Tideland Prius Moderator of the North Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 19,620 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: N/A Package: Technology Package (Canada) Thanks: 229 Thanked 345 Times in 244 Posts Friends: 23	I now understand the limits of the Goodyear Integritys I now understand why some of you say the stock tyres are crappy. No, I didn't crash the car but VSC did engage. The road was damp from a rain shower and I was making a left turn. Didn't check the speed but it was over 20km/h (most likely). I was running the yellow (distance too short to brake before the line so I ran it) and the street was quite wide (3 lanes on both side plus boulevard). THe moment I turned left, I could hear the TRAC working as the car dipped and dive as the wheels braked. Finally, VSC engaged as the beep sounded and I managed to turn into the proper lane. Yes, speed and damped conditions may be a factor but I didn't expect the tyres to give up so easily. That and the Prius really wants to keep you out of trouble. Not even a tyre squeal was heard. __________________ 2005 Tideland Pearl Premium Package 25/10/04 VVT-i Emblem, Sport Pedals, All-Weather Mats, Cargo Mat, EV Mod, JDM Prius Footwell Lighting, DICE iPod Kit 2008 Deep Black smart fortwo passion coupé - sold (6.1L/100km) 2010 Blue Ribbon Metallic Technology Package 29/08/09 All-Weather Mats, Homemade Console Pads, LED lighting "Ask an Expert" on Facebook I am not employed by Toyota, and the opinions expressed by me as a Prius Expert are not those of Toyota.

07-10-2005, 03:23 AM	#2
Bill Merchant absit invidia Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA \| Oregon \| Portland area \| 97004 \| Posts: 4,100 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: Package: #5 Thanks: 18 Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts Friends: 60	Re: I now understand the limits of the Goodyear Integritys [font=Comic Sans MS:47e22fbffa]Three words: Goodyear ComforTred tires.[/font:47e22fbffa]

07-10-2005, 07:43 PM	#10
jamarimutt Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 986 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Friends: 0	Re: I now understand the limits of the Goodyear Integritys The stock tires are fine for me, no problems at all at 22,000 miles.

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07-10-2005, 06:09 AM	#3
Emilyjohn Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 153 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	Tideland, are you sure the road surface wasn't oily? I enjoy taking curves and corners pretty fast and haven't yet experienced any problems with the stock tires in either wet or dry weather.

07-10-2005, 06:44 AM	#4
flareak I've sold more than 4 Prius! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Flint, MI Posts: 756 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: #4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	ive actually taken a turn at 45 mph... happens when you've only got package 4 (aka no nav) and you're looking for a turn on the roads next to the highways nothing happened... just was sad to push my car like that

07-10-2005, 12:15 PM	#7
Tideland Prius Moderator of the North Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 19,620 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: N/A Package: Technology Package (Canada) Thanks: 229 Thanked 345 Times in 244 Posts Friends: 23	Thanks for the response guys. A corner isn't the same as a left turn. My left turn was basically a 90° turn while a corner can be 10-50°. It wasn't a sweeping left turn to put it in other words. It was possible that oil could be present but it rained overnight and that morning had a few showers. Bill, I would switch except my tyres already have 13,000kms on it. Who'd buy tyres with 13,000kms? I've tried looking for ComforTreds to replace the Camry's tyres but no one around here sell them. Is it only available in the US or did I just have bad timing? Tony, hence I wrote that line you quoted hehe.

07-10-2005, 12:56 PM	#8
Frank Hudon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,144 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	so you found the limit. I'll change the tires on the wife's 2k4 probably this fall, before the monsoons set in. There is one spot on Boundary Road that kicks in the trac and will shurly get her hit one day. I'm thinking of HydroEdge for our wetter climate. Like the 1" of rain we got in 45 minutes yesterday afternoon. And yes I parked in the far corner of the mall parking lot.

07-10-2005, 04:47 PM	#9
Tideland Prius Moderator of the North Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 19,620 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: N/A Package: Technology Package (Canada) Thanks: 229 Thanked 345 Times in 244 Posts Friends: 23	Yep. Never thought I would in any car as I'm not the aggressive type but apparently I did. Haha, Boundary. I assume you mean the hill down from 49th/Imperial to SW Marine? HydroEdge is a unidirectional tyre. I didn't realise that until an STS with a set of those parked next to me. Does it wear out faster? I was thinking either the HydroEdge or maybe the MXM4 for the Camry. It's in dire need of replacement and I hope my dad can get it replaced before winter arrives.