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Old 10-10-2004, 11:04 AM   #11
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If you have a Palm-based PDA, I *highly* recommend "Highway Manager" from TinyStocks.com. I've been using it religiously since I got my Sebring in 2001 and now that I've traded that gas-guzzler in for a Prius I have a reason to use the "notes" feature -- to record the MFD's report of MPG when I fill up!

The ability to keep a lifetime "cost of ownership" record as well as to record fill-ups as being related to a particular trip (so you can get "trip" MPG as well as tank and overall) is really cool.

http://www.tinystocks.com/highway.html

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Old 10-11-2004, 12:08 AM   #12
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I'm curious why you want "dead tree" notekeeping. When I got on the Prius list, I started tracking the milage on my Buick Regal. All I did was carry a pen in my car and write the tank miles on the top of the receipt; since it's a gas station receipt, it has the gallons. When I got home, I just added it to my excel spreadsheet. The cool part of excel is that you can have it do the 'delta' calculations for you and the spreadsheet updates as you add more data. Additionally, I like the charts. You can see my current mileage spreadsheet in my signature.

I'm sure you have your reasons, but in this day and age, I'm just not sure why you have the need to step backwards in notekeeping.
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Old 10-11-2004, 02:43 AM   #13
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There is something satisfying about having a dead tree book. I just use a simple blank book with blank pages, one page per fill up. Every so often I use acid free rubber cement to attach the receipt. I also use it for miscellaneous notes. I transfer the numbers to a flat file (one line of text per fill) and crunch on it with filters. But then I am a unix guy.

Does anybody reset the MSG display more or less often than every fill up? "More often" makes sense to me, it is harder to see changes in MPG toward the end of the tank. Maybe just a separate chart, displaying MPG versus odometer, with vertical bars indicating fill points. It would have been good to have done this all along, but it might be a good habit to start new owners on. Before and after long trips would be a good time to reset the MPG calculation, for example.

Right now my MPG is really bad. I have a 2.5 mile commute, I never get beyond the first five minute period. I am thinking of getting a bicycle for the commute. 2.5 mile one way, that is.
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I'm not very good at excel but I have the program. Do you have a template of the gas mileage document? Or do you know where I can find one?

It would take me a hours starting from scratch cuz I know so little, but if there is already one out there....

Or if anyone else knows about such a template I'd really appreciate it.
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I'm curious why you want "dead tree" notekeeping. I'm sure you have your reasons, but in this day and age, I'm just not sure why you have the need to step backwards in notekeeping.
Because I pay cash? Already have too many receipts to track in Quicken. I don't need to see what %age of my spending is on gas. Especially when a $20 covers it. :-)

I got a basic small notepad at Staples when I couldn't find a specific gas tracking one. I laid out 3 different formats to see which worked best. Then I got gas the first time and realized: I don't need a page per month because I will only be stopping once or twice a month anyway! I guess I can use most of the pad to take notes on other things. :-)
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Assuming you have a safe road, good idea! Even dawdling along at 10 mph, you can be there in 15 minutes.
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TonyPSchaefer, I'm not very good at excel but I have the program. Do you have a template of the gas mileage document? Or do you know where I can find one?
I'll admit up front that I'm no Excel expert, but I play with it quite a bit.
I'm sorry for those who are Lotus 1-2-3 users. I do not have that application and can not create one for you. For Excel users, you are free to use this as long as you accept the following statement: "it's probably not the best thing out there and don't expect the world." Now, click this box: [ ] I agree

I have to admit that I'm accustomed to standing over someone's shoulder when I show them how to use something. Otherwise, I write a manual. In this case, I've got neither. I've tried to make it simple. However, since you are not acustomed to Excel, you might poke around a bit before you get the hang of it. But that's no biggy because if you "break" it, you can always download it again. This version will never change. :-)

When you open it, you will see that the column headings have little red arrows. If you point to them without clicking, little notes will pop up telling you what each column is for. If you want to see what one looks like filled in, you can click the tab on the bottom called "Sample". When you enter the numbers, the chart will automatically update. It's on the tab named "Chart".

This should hold you for a couple months at which time you will have to start adding lines and adjusting the chart. When you get there, just PM me and we'll work through it.

Good luck and if anyone wants to add funtionality to this and post an improved version, that would be great. In fact, I think it would be pretty cool if we developed a pretty slick "Priuschat MPG Log".
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Thanks for the template. I've started playing with it and it works fine.
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http://john1701a.com/prius/prius-data09.htm ...has quite a few spreadsheet samples on it, documenting my 4 years and 82,000 miles of Prius driving.
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Yeah, John! There yeah go. I haven't even follwed the link yet but know that you're gonna have some great stuff there. As you always do. I'll head over there now and see how I can ammend my own spreadsheet.

And every time I see a classic these days I smile and wave, thinking that we '04-ers are not the original early adaptors.
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I'm sorry for those who are Lotus 1-2-3 users. I do not have that application and can not create one for you. For Excel users, you are free to use this as long as you accept the following statement: "it's probably not the best thing out there and don't expect the world." Now, click this box: [ ] I agree
I have both. I made a 123 version of Tony's Excel file. I can do this because unlike some (non)competitive products, 123 will open spreadsheet files from other vendors.
I modified it slightly by adding a "calculated refill gallons" column based on "tank MPG" and "tank miles". Both are presumed to be Prius computer values. [sup:136fad161d]*[/sup:136fad161d]
I then used this column to calculate Lifetime mpg since Tony's sheet assumes relatively stable "tank miles" values. (And has shorted his lifetime MPG slightly).

[sup:136fad161d]*[/sup:136fad161d] I figure we don't want to spew gas all over the place if the computer or the pump is wrong and we can't really fit "computer tank miles/computer mpg" gallons in the tank so we pump a little less than we might be able to fit. :-)


OK, I DIDN'T attach it. I get an error saying "The Extension 123 is not allowed". What's up with that Danny?? I renamed the file to a .txt. MAYBE if you download it and change the extenstion to .123 it will work??
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