why estimate mpgs?

DaveinOlyWA · 08-07-2004, 08:35 PM

i just got gas last night so i checked the inspection sticker at the Arco on Martin Way and Sleater-Kinney (hdrygas probably knows the place) in Lacey and they were last inspected in May of 2000!!

yep, i think i will believe the car over the gas pump any day. after last night the difference is now .4 mpg. and the computer is higher but not consistantly so and im sure its due to the bladder not refilling consistantly.

but i am averaging 3.89 cents per mile and my lowest overall mpg estimate (after all, it is still an estimate no matter what method you use) is 52.92 mpg. (under the "old" method)

Frank Hudon · 08-07-2004, 09:15 PM

you should be smiling, mine is in USD
8.21 cents per mile
hers is
8.09 cents per mile
I guess you like our cheap gas. Ya right. The reason for the difference is we tend to fill hers when there is a gas war and mine is primarily a commuter car so don't often have that luxury.

DaveinOlyWA · 08-07-2004, 10:58 PM

i be smiling yes... but the smile is a recent thing...

my ford pickup was costing me about 13-14 cents a mile.

Ray Moore · 08-07-2004, 11:11 PM

I've been pulling down 3.2 cents per mile for some time now. Of course gas is just a small part of the cost equation but it is kind of neat when the cost of gas is almost free.

Frank Hudon · 08-08-2004, 07:14 PM

it's interesting how we pay almost as much in tax per gallon as you pay per gallon.

DaveinOlyWA · 08-08-2004, 07:23 PM

yes it is very interesting, especially considering that your country is our #1 importer of oil...

Frank Hudon · 08-08-2004, 07:38 PM

I thought I read that the Saudi's were you #1 source for crude and we were #2 I might be wrong. But there sure is a difference in the tax rates. Federal excise tax, Provincial tax, Goods and Service tax, Provincial sales tax, and a local transit authority tax. I probably missed a couple more though. Just a quick calc. $2.28 USD a US gallon here.

LeVautRien · 08-08-2004, 08:28 PM

You are correct, we are number two. But we still need to import tons.

DaveinOlyWA · 08-08-2004, 09:10 PM

you are wrong

as of Oct 2003
% of oil used in US

1. Canada 17%
2. Mexico 13.7%
3. Venezuala 11.9%
4. Saudi Arabia 11%

Alaska is the US' #1 source for oil. the reason for this stat is simple logistics. Saudia Arabia is too far away to be a viable source to most of the US. so you see Canada is #2 but the #1 importer.

now saying this, Saudi Arabia does account for nearly 40 % of the oil used on the east coast.

LeVautRien · 08-09-2004, 01:10 AM

I'm sorry, I misread his statment. I thought he was talking about worldwide supply. The US has the highest production after Saudi Arabia, thanks to places like Alaska, Texas, and the parts of the Gulf of Mexico that we choose to drill in.

08-07-2004, 08:35 PM	#21
DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Puget Sound, WA Posts: 12,821 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: IV Package: Solar Roof Thanks: 38 Thanked 188 Times in 161 Posts Friends: 12	i just got gas last night so i checked the inspection sticker at the Arco on Martin Way and Sleater-Kinney (hdrygas probably knows the place) in Lacey and they were last inspected in May of 2000!! yep, i think i will believe the car over the gas pump any day. after last night the difference is now .4 mpg. and the computer is higher but not consistantly so and im sure its due to the bladder not refilling consistantly. but i am averaging 3.89 cents per mile and my lowest overall mpg estimate (after all, it is still an estimate no matter what method you use) is 52.92 mpg. (under the "old" method) __________________ My Blue 2010 : Last tank 548.4 @ 50.48 pump (56.5 MFD) 5.74 CPM, 23 MPH, Lifetime:8102.4 miles MPG pump. 53.75 (59.49 MFD) 5.04 CPM. Summer MPG 57.4 Winter: 48.98 My 2006 SPM: Last tank 456.3 @46.9 pump (47.3 MFD) 6.23 cpm winter mpg 49.29 summer mpg 53.41 lifetime: 44,804.8 miles 51.18 mpg pump (52.34 mpg MFD) 5.54 cpm My 2007 Zenn total "fuel cost" $180.10 on "about" 10,002 miles. 1.74 cents per mile (granted i plug in for free at work!!) My Plate: DUALPWR (Dual Power)

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08-07-2004, 09:15 PM	#22
Frank Hudon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,144 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Friends: 0	you should be smiling, mine is in USD 8.21 cents per mile hers is 8.09 cents per mile I guess you like our cheap gas. Ya right. The reason for the difference is we tend to fill hers when there is a gas war and mine is primarily a commuter car so don't often have that luxury.

08-07-2004, 10:58 PM	#23
DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Puget Sound, WA Posts: 12,821 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: IV Package: Solar Roof Thanks: 38 Thanked 188 Times in 161 Posts Friends: 12	i be smiling yes... but the smile is a recent thing... my ford pickup was costing me about 13-14 cents a mile.

08-07-2004, 11:11 PM	#24
Ray Moore Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 820 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	I've been pulling down 3.2 cents per mile for some time now. Of course gas is just a small part of the cost equation but it is kind of neat when the cost of gas is almost free.

08-08-2004, 07:14 PM	#25
Frank Hudon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,144 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Friends: 0	it's interesting how we pay almost as much in tax per gallon as you pay per gallon.

08-08-2004, 07:23 PM	#26
DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Puget Sound, WA Posts: 12,821 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: IV Package: Solar Roof Thanks: 38 Thanked 188 Times in 161 Posts Friends: 12	yes it is very interesting, especially considering that your country is our #1 importer of oil...

08-08-2004, 07:38 PM	#27
Frank Hudon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,144 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Friends: 0	I thought I read that the Saudi's were you #1 source for crude and we were #2 I might be wrong. But there sure is a difference in the tax rates. Federal excise tax, Provincial tax, Goods and Service tax, Provincial sales tax, and a local transit authority tax. I probably missed a couple more though. Just a quick calc. $2.28 USD a US gallon here.

08-08-2004, 08:28 PM	#28
LeVautRien Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Claremont, California Posts: 367 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	You are correct, we are number two. But we still need to import tons.

08-08-2004, 09:10 PM	#29
DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Puget Sound, WA Posts: 12,821 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: IV Package: Solar Roof Thanks: 38 Thanked 188 Times in 161 Posts Friends: 12	you are wrong as of Oct 2003 % of oil used in US 1. Canada 17% 2. Mexico 13.7% 3. Venezuala 11.9% 4. Saudi Arabia 11% Alaska is the US' #1 source for oil. the reason for this stat is simple logistics. Saudia Arabia is too far away to be a viable source to most of the US. so you see Canada is #2 but the #1 importer. now saying this, Saudi Arabia does account for nearly 40 % of the oil used on the east coast.

08-09-2004, 01:10 AM	#30
LeVautRien Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Claremont, California Posts: 367 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	I'm sorry, I misread his statment. I thought he was talking about worldwide supply. The US has the highest production after Saudi Arabia, thanks to places like Alaska, Texas, and the parts of the Gulf of Mexico that we choose to drill in.