2006 Prius data analysis

TheForce · 04-01-2009, 05:45 PM

Well I too get all red when braking but the voltages go above 18v. I'm assuming thats a good charge voltage for the cells. By default this voltage would be a warning from the CAN-View.

While driving the voltages did not do much but that may be because the Hymotion was topping them off and keeping things even. I'll do another test when I get home by running off the stock battery only to see what happens.

Flying White Dutchman · 04-12-2009, 03:38 AM

ok
nice
at what did you see when you did that?

Flying White Dutchman · 04-20-2009, 04:36 PM

he the force

can you give a update?

TheForce · 04-20-2009, 04:43 PM

Sorry I forgot to update.

I did a test without the Hymotion and I got pretty much the same results. I got high voltage when braking and some lower voltages when hard accelerating. Really nothing to worry about. If I had a way of recording the numbers I would post them here. Maybe one day I can get my video camera out and record the results.

Flying White Dutchman · 04-20-2009, 04:49 PM

i hope norm will put it on the data output.

you can collect date over a longer periode to see if there is any change in the cell voltages and so detect a problem.

TheForce · 04-20-2009, 04:52 PM

Thats what I asked him to do when I seen that he added this pack voltage info. He said something along the lines that he would think about it.

Flying White Dutchman · 04-20-2009, 05:02 PM

lets wait and see

it would be great if the temp hack can be swichted on and off by canview based on some canbus info..

TheForce · 04-20-2009, 05:16 PM

I don't see how the temp hack would work with the can-view unless you can spoof the CAN packets instead of using the actual hack. That way the can-view knows the actual temperature all the time but will give the car the fake value. If you use the can-view to turn on the physical hack the can-view would have no way of telling what the actual temperature is.

What would be nice is if the can-view could fake the temperature over the CAN bus and do everything on its own including clearing any errors that may occur while using the temperature hack.

Flying White Dutchman · 04-21-2009, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheForce

I don't see how the temp hack would work with the can-view unless you can spoof the CAN packets instead of using the actual hack. That way the can-view knows the actual temperature all the time but will give the car the fake value. If you use the can-view to turn on the physical hack the can-view would have no way of telling what the actual temperature is.

What would be nice is if the can-view could fake the temperature over the CAN bus and do everything on its own including clearing any errors that may occur while using the temperature hack.

mmmm? if you use the temp hack manual by w switch like you did the canview can also not tell the real temp because as you can see the canview is also faked.. and presents the temp reading you just made with the resistor

so i dont see the problem with a canview relay switching based on IF the ICE is running or nog

ICE ofF temp hack relay ON
iCE ON temp hack relay OFF.

TheForce · 04-21-2009, 06:50 PM

If you did it that way you would still have to adjust a POT unless you just bypass the coolant resistor.

You would also want the hack to be on when the engine is on if your actual temp is below 150F and you speed is greater than 41MPH. This way you can do warp stealth or get 150+ MPG.

04-01-2009, 05:45 PM	#31
TheForce I Plug-In My Prius Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wheelersburg, Ohio Posts: 2,726 My Car: 2006 Prius Model: Package: #7 Thanks: 1 Thanked 155 Times in 114 Posts Friends: 22	Re: 2006 Prius data analysis Well I too get all red when braking but the voltages go above 18v. I'm assuming thats a good charge voltage for the cells. By default this voltage would be a warning from the CAN-View. While driving the voltages did not do much but that may be because the Hymotion was topping them off and keeping things even. I'll do another test when I get home by running off the stock battery only to see what happens.

04-12-2009, 03:38 AM	#32
Flying White Dutchman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,546 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: Thanks: 3 Thanked 183 Times in 150 Posts Friends: 9	Re: 2006 Prius data analysis ok nice at what did you see when you did that?

04-20-2009, 04:36 PM	#33
Flying White Dutchman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,546 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: Thanks: 3 Thanked 183 Times in 150 Posts Friends: 9	Re: 2006 Prius data analysis he the force can you give a update?

04-20-2009, 04:43 PM	#34
TheForce I Plug-In My Prius Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wheelersburg, Ohio Posts: 2,726 My Car: 2006 Prius Model: Package: #7 Thanks: 1 Thanked 155 Times in 114 Posts Friends: 22	Re: 2006 Prius data analysis Sorry I forgot to update. I did a test without the Hymotion and I got pretty much the same results. I got high voltage when braking and some lower voltages when hard accelerating. Really nothing to worry about. If I had a way of recording the numbers I would post them here. Maybe one day I can get my video camera out and record the results.

04-20-2009, 04:49 PM	#35
Flying White Dutchman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,546 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: Thanks: 3 Thanked 183 Times in 150 Posts Friends: 9	Re: 2006 Prius data analysis i hope norm will put it on the data output. you can collect date over a longer periode to see if there is any change in the cell voltages and so detect a problem.

04-20-2009, 04:52 PM	#36
TheForce I Plug-In My Prius Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wheelersburg, Ohio Posts: 2,726 My Car: 2006 Prius Model: Package: #7 Thanks: 1 Thanked 155 Times in 114 Posts Friends: 22	Re: 2006 Prius data analysis Thats what I asked him to do when I seen that he added this pack voltage info. He said something along the lines that he would think about it.

04-20-2009, 05:02 PM	#37
Flying White Dutchman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,546 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: Thanks: 3 Thanked 183 Times in 150 Posts Friends: 9	Re: 2006 Prius data analysis lets wait and see it would be great if the temp hack can be swichted on and off by canview based on some canbus info..

04-20-2009, 05:16 PM	#38
TheForce I Plug-In My Prius Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wheelersburg, Ohio Posts: 2,726 My Car: 2006 Prius Model: Package: #7 Thanks: 1 Thanked 155 Times in 114 Posts Friends: 22	Re: 2006 Prius data analysis I don't see how the temp hack would work with the can-view unless you can spoof the CAN packets instead of using the actual hack. That way the can-view knows the actual temperature all the time but will give the car the fake value. If you use the can-view to turn on the physical hack the can-view would have no way of telling what the actual temperature is. What would be nice is if the can-view could fake the temperature over the CAN bus and do everything on its own including clearing any errors that may occur while using the temperature hack. __________________ 2006 Prius Barcelona Red Package #7. Picked up 2006/01/02 Converted to Plug-In on 2008/08/12 with Hymotion L5 *Hybridfest 2007 & 2008 Peoples Choice Award * *Hybridfest 2009 Peoples Choice Best of Show Award * For a list of my mods visit http://www.jaygroh.com

04-21-2009, 06:50 PM	#40
TheForce I Plug-In My Prius Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wheelersburg, Ohio Posts: 2,726 My Car: 2006 Prius Model: Package: #7 Thanks: 1 Thanked 155 Times in 114 Posts Friends: 22	Re: 2006 Prius data analysis If you did it that way you would still have to adjust a POT unless you just bypass the coolant resistor. You would also want the hack to be on when the engine is on if your actual temp is below 150F and you speed is greater than 41MPH. This way you can do warp stealth or get 150+ MPG.

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