PriusChat Mileage Database - ideas and input for features needed!

[JSH]

Originally Posted by bwilson4web

Now three of us are Southerners and as such, share some cultural aspects. One of which is the ability to forgive, perhaps not forget, but at least understand that as long as we are human, we will make mistakes. When that happens, we acknowledge the problem and then make a new plan. One of our best Southern traditions is when we recognize this and not nag someone over and over again.

Sorry, I may currently live in Alabama but I'm not a southerner. They would never have me even if I wanted to be one. I was born and raised in Michigan but have spent the last 9 years in VA, TN, and AL. The funny thing is that before I moved south, geographical place of birth had no meaning. It was only after the move that I was made very aware of my status as a "damn Yankee" and realized that for some people your place of birth is far more important than your character. As far as forgiveness goes, I've seen no evidence that that it is a southern trait. Many I have interacted with still have a Civil War mindset and still see a country divided North / South with a deep seeded mistrust of anyone not born in a 50 mile radius.

I would happily leave tomorrow and never look back. My wife has had a very different experience in Alabama. She works at a start-up company in Birmingham where transplants outnumber locals. Her co-workers literally come from all over the world. My experience has been primarily in small towns were racism is alive and well and people don't even attempt to hide it.

Originally Posted by bwilson4web

The old GreenHybrid database is dead and the last time I tried to use it, the Internet Brands version of a GreenHybrid database has structural flaws that make it unusable. So I needed a place to keep my mileage records and do engineering studies. I've chosen to go with a database that comes closest to my technical goals and objectives. Discussing personalities, nagging them, really doesn't contribute to the technical issues.

I'm not sure why you say the GreenHybrid database is dead. I just logged in today and added a few tanks. It worked just like usual and the average in my signature updated like normal. I keep a personal log on each vehicle I own so any online data is redundant.

[bwilson4web]

Originally Posted by JSH

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I'm not sure why you say the GreenHybrid database is dead. I just logged in today and added a few tanks. It worked just like usual and the average in my signature updated like normal. I keep a personal log on each vehicle I own so any online data is redundant.

Wow! Did they back out the other one?

Also, my apologies for assuming you were southern. My wife is also a transplant but asked to say here in Huntsville in 1989 and then again between 1996-2000. But that is another story for another time and place. <grins>

Bob Wilson

[jdenenberg]

Originally Posted by JSH

I'm not sure why you say the GreenHybrid database is dead. I just logged in today and added a few tanks. It worked just like usual and the average in my signature updated like normal. I keep a personal log on each vehicle I own so any online data is redundant.

I also went to "add a tank" to my car in GH, and found that the set of tanks that they had for me in the new database was garbage. I then deleted my car, added it back in and then switched over to Jason's new web site where I entered all 450+ tanks . Jason is responsive to suggested features and fully supports his users so I will continue to support his efforts.

I also maintain a separate, local spreadsheet of my data for archival and analysis so that my data is secure no matter what others do.

[JasonS]

I'm pleased to inform you all that data backups are now available as Excel files at myHybridCar.com.

[patsparks]

Sounds to me, like any business person is entitled, Jason built up a a business then when owning that business no longer suited Jason he took an opportunity which was offered to him and sold his business. I don't know if Jason offered the business to others in the hybrid/green community but I can see no reason people should complain about Jason's actions. I suspect Jason believed the new owner would protect the value of their investment and maintain the asset, from some accounts they failed to do this.

Jason is also quite within his rights as a business person to start a new and similar business if and when it falls withing the terms of the sale of his old business, can't fault him there.

As far as "trolling" PriusChat I think it is normal practise for sites of common interest to cross promote and using one site does not preclude a person from using another. In fact many on this thread use many sites and many forums and rather than inhibit their contributions I suspect it enhances them. No problem there.

Only thing I can think that Jason may have done that people may have a reason, to complain is if the information the site members contributed to his old site became inaccessible to the members after the change of ownership, any contract of sale should include a guarantee that contributors are informed of the change of ownership and have a guarantee of access to information they have stored on the site. This may not be a legal responsibility but it is a moral one.

Jason I don't know you and don't use your site but I wish you every success with your new site.

End of rant!

[jdenenberg]

Originally Posted by patsparks

Only thing I can think that Jason may have done that people may have a reason, to complain is if the information the site members contributed to his old site became inaccessible to the members after the change of ownership, any contract of sale should include a guarantee that contributors are informed of the change of ownership and have a guarantee of access to information they have stored on the site. This may not be a legal responsibility but it is a moral one.

Pat,

I think that Jason may have learned a lesson here. Remember, he is a young student that had an early success in his Internet ventures and had little prior business experience. He is now providing mechanisms for his users to protect their data in his new venture (see his note above).

[prius12306]

Originally Posted by jdenenberg

I also went to "add a tank" to my car in GH, and found that the set of tanks that they had for me in the new database was garbage. I then deleted my car, added it back in and then switched over to Jason's new web site where I entered all 450+ tanks . Jason is responsive to suggested features and fully supports his users so I will continue to support his efforts.

I also maintain a separate, local spreadsheet of my data for archival and analysis so that my data is secure no matter what others do.

Wow, I can't believe you entered all those 450+ tanks. I just started with the last 10 when I switched over to Jason's site.

[360texas]

Planning a short trip this next Saturday Fort Worth to Oklahoma City. So I decided to top off the 2009 Prius.

Last time I filled up:
Total miles driven 271
Total 6.094 gallon Cost $14.99
Miles per/gallon 271 mile/6.094 gallon = 44.46 miles per gallon

This time
Total miles driven 69.4
Total topped off with .287 gallon (less than 1/3 gallon) Cost $0.70 cents
Miles per/gallon 69.4 mile/0.287 gallon = 241.81 miles per gallon

We are going to have to do this more often.

[DFWPrius2009]

Originally Posted by 360texas

Planning a short trip this next Saturday Fort Worth to Oklahoma City. So I decided to top off the 2009 Prius.

Last time I filled up:
Total miles driven 271
Total 6.094 gallon Cost $14.99
Miles per/gallon 271 mile/6.094 gallon = 44.46 miles per gallon

This time
Total miles driven 69.4
Total topped off with .287 gallon (less than 1/3 gallon) Cost $0.70 cents
Miles per/gallon 69.4 mile/0.287 gallon = 241.81 miles per gallon

We are going to have to do this more often.

How did you get such great gas mileage??