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Old 09-19-2008, 10:26 PM   #11
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I thought you had to be in S3 to be able to P&G. If I'm not at 155F(coolant temp) or above I can't P&G. Once I hit 155F, I can go into a glide if my speed reaches at least 35 mph. I was under the impression that S2 only meant that the ICE would auto-stop at stop signs/lights?
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Old 09-20-2008, 04:22 AM   #12
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What about the 34 mph requirement along with the 154F temp? Thought that was a requirement too!
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I was under the impression that S2 only meant that the ICE would auto-stop at stop signs/lights?
Japanese NHW20 Prius can do full P&G in S2.
Is the NA Prius different?

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Old 09-20-2008, 01:25 PM   #15
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Japanese NHW20 Prius can do full P&G in S2.
Is the NA Prius different?

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AFAIK, the only NA Prius that can do an ICE-off glide in S2 are those with EV switches. Are you able to do S2 glides without the switch?
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AFAIK, the only NA Prius that can do an ICE-off glide in S2 are those with EV switches. Are you able to do S2 glides without the switch?
I didn't know that.
Japanese NHW20 Prius behavior is...

S1a:ICE-on at stop:no ICE-off glide:no ICE-off by EV switch
S1b:ICE-on at stop:no ICE-off glide:ICE-off by EV switch
S2:ICE-off at stop:ICE-off glide:ICE-off by EV switch
S3:ICE-off at stop after several seconds(S3->S4):no ICE-off glide:ICE-off by EV switch
S4:ICE-off at stop:ICE-off glide:ICE-off by EV switch

Therefore, the Japanese Prius S2 behavior is same as S4.

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I believe that in NA in S2 you can only get an ICE-off glide in S2 if you exceed 34mph then try to enter glide.

I can never get an ICE off glide below that speed unless the ICE is above 154F and I've done a full stop and let the ICE self shut off during that full stop...S4.
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Maybe my car is Japanese because I can run fully on battery (99mpg) doing this. When I glide, I still end up in the 70'smpg but the fact that I can even black out the energy screen is better than what it was before!
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I would be grateful if someone can explain "ICE" and all the abbreviations that are uses in this thread.

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I would be grateful if someone can explain "ICE" and all the abbreviations that are uses in this thread.

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Ice = Internal Combustion Engine
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