Which Replacement Tires?

ChiaPrius · 10-13-2005, 01:39 PM

When my 2004 was serviced yesterday, the dealership told me my OEM tires had 'edge wear' and should be replaced (at about 20,000 miles!!). They offered to replace them with Integrities for $420. They also said there was no milage warranty on the OEM tires and that they would offer none on the new ones. Lovely.

I drive in San Diego, and we have no weather that I'm aware of, so the discussions on tires in extreme weather areas are not terribly useful. Mainly, I just want the tires to be quiet, grip reasonably well, not make my milage appreciably worse & not be horribly expensive. In that department the Falken Ziex ZE-512 were looking good at about $65 per tire and 50,000 mi wear but I just read a post that said they adversely affected the milage. Any other experiences? Or should I go with the Michelin HydroEdge at $110 and 85,000 mi wear? I've heard some good things about the ComfortTread as well. Or should I use the Integrity because of the low resistance (although crappy wear)?

Thanks for any thoughts or experiences!

JackDodge · 10-13-2005, 02:19 PM

I'm kind of new around here, ChiaPrius, but it sounds as if the dealership is trying to make some money off of you. The Integrity is the kind that my 2005 came with and according to the chart from another post, they cost about $50 apiece. You can get really good tires for $73 so $420 for a set seems awfully expensive. Also, every new car that I've ever gotten had warranties for the tires that were handled by the tire manufacturer separately from the car's warranty so they sound as if they're scamming you. Edge wear? Oh brother. I wouldn't go back to that dealership if I was in your place.

paprius4030 · 10-13-2005, 02:29 PM

That's normal for the Integrity's in your not runniung tire pressure at 42/40. Otherwise you should get 30 to 40k out of them.

**efusco** · 10-13-2005, 02:29 PM

Do not pay the dealer $420--he's/she's hoping you're stupid and won't do any research.

Somewhere here there's a list of all tires that fit the Prius--search around for that nice spread sheet that has all the tire wear ratings, cost, etc.

That said, most have narrowed the list down to a handful of good choices.

1)OEM Integrities...if you like getting 20-30k miles/tire and don't mind bad traction and handling then these are a good choice for $55/tire or so. BTW, 20k is mighty early to be needing replacement...you should have your alignment checked soon after you put new tires on if you intend to do that soon. If you intend to continue driving on the Integrities the have the alignment done now. Ask around for a reliable tire shop in your area and have them look at your tires and give an opinion of how long they'll last and you might get them to do the alignment--the only problem there is that the Prius requires something called a "Zero-Point calibration" with the alignment and many independent shops may not be equipt to do that so you may be stuck with your dealer for that proceedure. It's still worthwhile.

2)Comfortread...seems a very nice riding tire for a decent price (?$80)
3)Michelin HydroEdge--Around $105+/tire but 80k mile warranty on tread, superior handling esp. in rain--about as noisy as the OEM.
4)Michelin MVX series--for a low rolling resistance option
5)Falkins seem to be getting good press for another LRR tire

There are a few others that don't come immediately to mind that folks seem to like.

Tempus · 10-13-2005, 02:36 PM

They Fib

The 2004 came with a mileage warrantee on the tires. It's through Goodyear.

As far as other replacements, If they made the Triple Tred in the right size I'd probably go that way. Right now I'm leaning toward trying the Michelin Energy series, if only because no one else here seems to have tried them, so may as well get a data point for one of the current crop of LRRs.

p626808 · 10-13-2005, 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by ChiaPrius@Oct 13 2005, 12:39 PM
When my 2004 was serviced yesterday, the dealership told me my OEM tires had 'edge wear' and should be replaced (at about 20,000 miles!!). They offered to replace them with Integrities for $420. They also said there was no milage warranty on the OEM tires and that they would offer none on the new ones. Lovely.

I drive in San Diego, and we have no weather that I'm aware of, so the discussions on tires in extreme weather areas are not terribly useful. Mainly, I just want the tires to be quiet, grip reasonably well, not make my milage appreciably worse & not be horribly expensive. In that department the Falken Ziex ZE-512 were looking good at about $65 per tire and 50,000 mi wear but I just read a post that said they adversely affected the milage. Any other experiences? Or should I go with the Michelin HydroEdge at $110 and 85,000 mi wear? I've heard some good things about the ComfortTread as well. Or should I use the Integrity because of the low resistance (although crappy wear)?

Thanks for any thoughts or experiences!

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I just ordered the Michelin Hydroedge.. from costco..109 a tire.. plus they have a 60 dollar off coupon..
I should have them on in a week or two..
If you can wait.. I will let you know how they are..

Scott
04 Silver #5 36K miles

tomdeimos · 10-13-2005, 02:44 PM

http://priuschat.com/index.php?showtopic=1...&hl=green+tires

Bill Merchant · 10-13-2005, 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by Tempus@Oct 13 2005, 11:36 AM
If they made the Triple Tred in the right size I'd probably go that way.
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The Goodyear TripleTred comes in the correct size to replace the Goodyear Integrity tire. EXACT SAME SIZE.

That's the reason I put less than 100 miles on the OEM tires before switching.

bruceha_2000 · 10-13-2005, 02:52 PM

As stated by others, the dealer is a snake and should be avoided. If they are willing to do this to you on your tires, I wouldn't go there for service either.

Edge wear - BOTH edges of a single tire? If so, your air pressure is too low.
Otherwise, as Evan said, get the alignment checked BEFORE you buy new tires.

Tempus - Goodyear TripleTreds. I got a set, not the "right" size, but an 'equivilent' size and they fit the rims. I wouldn't suggest them for ChiaPrius necessarily, not a lot of snow in San Diego. Better grooving than the ComfortTreds for snow grip but they are somewhat noiser as a result.

Just saw the post Bill snuck in before I hit "ADD post" - if they make the same size as the OEMs it is new since I got mine in January.

MarinJohn · 10-13-2005, 03:09 PM

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10-13-2005, 02:19 PM	#2
JackDodge Gold Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bloomfield Hills, MI Posts: 2,375 My Car: Other Hybrid Model: Package: N/A Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Friends: 0	I'm kind of new around here, ChiaPrius, but it sounds as if the dealership is trying to make some money off of you. The Integrity is the kind that my 2005 came with and according to the chart from another post, they cost about $50 apiece. You can get really good tires for $73 so $420 for a set seems awfully expensive. Also, every new car that I've ever gotten had warranties for the tires that were handled by the tire manufacturer separately from the car's warranty so they sound as if they're scamming you. Edge wear? Oh brother. I wouldn't go back to that dealership if I was in your place. __________________ "Isolation exists only in isolation. Once shared, it evaporates" - Dr. Breuer from the movie "When Nietzsche Wept"

10-13-2005, 02:29 PM	#4
efusco Troll Slayer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nixa, MO Posts: 17,228 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #9 Thanks: 49 Thanked 249 Times in 148 Posts Friends: 37	Do not pay the dealer $420--he's/she's hoping you're stupid and won't do any research. Somewhere here there's a list of all tires that fit the Prius--search around for that nice spread sheet that has all the tire wear ratings, cost, etc. That said, most have narrowed the list down to a handful of good choices. 1)OEM Integrities...if you like getting 20-30k miles/tire and don't mind bad traction and handling then these are a good choice for $55/tire or so. BTW, 20k is mighty early to be needing replacement...you should have your alignment checked soon after you put new tires on if you intend to do that soon. If you intend to continue driving on the Integrities the have the alignment done now. Ask around for a reliable tire shop in your area and have them look at your tires and give an opinion of how long they'll last and you might get them to do the alignment--the only problem there is that the Prius requires something called a "Zero-Point calibration" with the alignment and many independent shops may not be equipt to do that so you may be stuck with your dealer for that proceedure. It's still worthwhile. 2)Comfortread...seems a very nice riding tire for a decent price (?$80) 3)Michelin HydroEdge--Around $105+/tire but 80k mile warranty on tread, superior handling esp. in rain--about as noisy as the OEM. 4)Michelin MVX series--for a low rolling resistance option 5)Falkins seem to be getting good press for another LRR tire There are a few others that don't come immediately to mind that folks seem to like. __________________ Evan E. Fusco, MD "It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word." -Andrew Jackson

10-13-2005, 02:52 PM	#9
bruceha_2000 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: South Burlington, VT Posts: 2,549 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #8 Thanks: 6 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts Friends: 1	As stated by others, the dealer is a snake and should be avoided. If they are willing to do this to you on your tires, I wouldn't go there for service either. Edge wear - BOTH edges of a single tire? If so, your air pressure is too low. Otherwise, as Evan said, get the alignment checked BEFORE you buy new tires. Tempus - Goodyear TripleTreds. I got a set, not the "right" size, but an 'equivilent' size and they fit the rims. I wouldn't suggest them for ChiaPrius necessarily, not a lot of snow in San Diego. Better grooving than the ComfortTreds for snow grip but they are somewhat noiser as a result. Just saw the post Bill snuck in before I hit "ADD post" - if they make the same size as the OEMs it is new since I got mine in January. __________________ Bruce Mine: Driftwood '04 BC 24 Sept 2004 - added: mudflaps, door edge guards, side panel moldings, Coastal Tech EV switch, OEM Integrity tires, WeatherTech window deflectors. Last tank - 14 Jul '09: 728.9 miles - MFD MPG: 56.0 Actuals Lifetime: 93,087.3 miles, 48.90 MPG. Wife's: Barcelona '06 #7 May 2006 - added: front mudflaps, Coastal Tech EV switch. OEM Integrity tires. Last tank - 21 May '09: 419.4 miles - MFD MPG: 46.7 Actuals Lifetime: 31571.4 miles, 44.82 MPG.

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10-13-2005, 01:39 PM	#1
ChiaPrius Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 9 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	When my 2004 was serviced yesterday, the dealership told me my OEM tires had 'edge wear' and should be replaced (at about 20,000 miles!!). They offered to replace them with Integrities for $420. They also said there was no milage warranty on the OEM tires and that they would offer none on the new ones. Lovely. I drive in San Diego, and we have no weather that I'm aware of, so the discussions on tires in extreme weather areas are not terribly useful. Mainly, I just want the tires to be quiet, grip reasonably well, not make my milage appreciably worse & not be horribly expensive. In that department the Falken Ziex ZE-512 were looking good at about $65 per tire and 50,000 mi wear but I just read a post that said they adversely affected the milage. Any other experiences? Or should I go with the Michelin HydroEdge at $110 and 85,000 mi wear? I've heard some good things about the ComfortTread as well. Or should I use the Integrity because of the low resistance (although crappy wear)? Thanks for any thoughts or experiences!

10-13-2005, 02:29 PM	#3
paprius4030 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pocono's, Pa. Posts: 1,296 My Car: 2008 Prius Model: Package: #2 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts Friends: 1	That's normal for the Integrity's in your not runniung tire pressure at 42/40. Otherwise you should get 30 to 40k out of them.

10-13-2005, 02:36 PM	#5
Tempus Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Washington DC Posts: 1,693 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	They Fib The 2004 came with a mileage warrantee on the tires. It's through Goodyear. As far as other replacements, If they made the Triple Tred in the right size I'd probably go that way. Right now I'm leaning toward trying the Michelin Energy series, if only because no one else here seems to have tried them, so may as well get a data point for one of the current crop of LRRs.

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