a minor problem (I think)

Vespasian · 11-23-2005, 03:01 PM

I was sitting in my car [in park] inside of a parking garage. The car was on but the ICE was off. After about a minute or so the ICE turned on, causing the car to "leap" forward a foot or two and subsequently casuing the front end of my car to make contact with a concrete wall. Other than the license plate holder there really isn't any visible damage. Is there something wrong with my car or is this normal? I'm now making it a point to park at least three feet from all concrete walls.

EDIT: The "leap" was probably closer to a foot than two feet.

KTPhil · 11-23-2005, 03:04 PM

Next time press the P button.

Vespasian · 11-23-2005, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by KTPhil@Nov 23 2005, 04:04 PM
Next time press the P button.

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The car was in park.

IsrAmeriPrius · 11-23-2005, 03:07 PM

Troll alert!!!

brandon · 11-23-2005, 03:09 PM

There's a technical explanation somewhere here that says why the car moves slightly when the ICE kicks in, and I'm sure others will chime in with that explanation as well. However, if the car was in park when the ICE started up, it is, to my understanding, physically impossible for the car to move more than a few inches unless something has damaged the prawl.

Vespasian · 11-23-2005, 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by brandon@Nov 23 2005, 04:09 PM
There's a technical explanation somewhere here that says why the car moves slightly when the ICE kicks in, and I'm sure others will chime in with that explanation as well. However, if the car was in park when the ICE started up, it is, to my understanding, physically impossible for the car to move more than a few inches unless something has damaged the prawl.

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Maybe it was closer to a foot than two feet. I really don't know for sure. But I know I wasn't only a few inches from the wall.

jeromep · 11-23-2005, 03:14 PM

1. You were parked too close to the wall.

2. Standing still ICE start is totally normal based upon battery SOC, engine/cat temperatures or cabin temperature requirements. There is quite a bit of torque forces in action between the ICE and MG1, which starts the ICE, during a standing ICE start. In other words, in park you will drift forward with an ICE start, but limited to the play that is inherent in the parking lock system (all automatics have this play). If your parking brake had been set this would not have happened.

3. There is probably absolutely no damage to your bumper of front fascia. Get a new license plat bracket and frame and learn from this lesson, always set your parking brake.

aaf709 · 11-23-2005, 03:15 PM

Was this a startup situation, or had you pulled into the space after a drive?

Sufferin' Prius Envy · 11-23-2005, 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by IsrAmeriPrius@Nov 23 2005, 12:07 PM
Troll alert!!!

A troll with 90+ prior posts? I doubt it.
That would be some serious dedication to the art of deception!

Vespasian · 11-23-2005, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jeromep@Nov 23 2005, 04:14 PM
1. You were parked too close to the wall.

2. Standing still ICE start is totally normal based upon battery SOC, engine/cat temperatures or cabin temperature requirements. There is quite a bit of torque forces in action between the ICE and MG1, which starts the ICE, during a standing ICE start. In other words, in park you will drift forward with an ICE start, but limited to the play that is inherent in the parking lock system (all automatics have this play). If your parking brake had been set this would not have happened.

3. There is probably absolutely no damage to your bumper of front fascia. Get a new license plat bracket and frame and learn from this lesson, always set your parking brake.

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I probably was parked too close, but I didn't want someone to clip the rear end of my car when they were coming around the corner. And I was gonna ask if I should always have my parking brake engaged.

11-23-2005, 03:14 PM	#7
jeromep Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Eastern Washington State Posts: 827 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: N/A Package: #5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	1. You were parked too close to the wall. 2. Standing still ICE start is totally normal based upon battery SOC, engine/cat temperatures or cabin temperature requirements. There is quite a bit of torque forces in action between the ICE and MG1, which starts the ICE, during a standing ICE start. In other words, in park you will drift forward with an ICE start, but limited to the play that is inherent in the parking lock system (all automatics have this play). If your parking brake had been set this would not have happened. 3. There is probably absolutely no damage to your bumper of front fascia. Get a new license plat bracket and frame and learn from this lesson, always set your parking brake. __________________ It has been said: Hybrid drivers come in 3 flavors, greenie, techie and cheapie. Pick any 2. 2005 Prius, Millenium Silver over gray, package 5 (AI)

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11-23-2005, 03:01 PM	#1
Vespasian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 126 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	I was sitting in my car [in park] inside of a parking garage. The car was on but the ICE was off. After about a minute or so the ICE turned on, causing the car to "leap" forward a foot or two and subsequently casuing the front end of my car to make contact with a concrete wall. Other than the license plate holder there really isn't any visible damage. Is there something wrong with my car or is this normal? I'm now making it a point to park at least three feet from all concrete walls. EDIT: The "leap" was probably closer to a foot than two feet.

11-23-2005, 03:04 PM	#2
KTPhil Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,329 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts Friends: 0	Next time press the P button.

11-23-2005, 03:07 PM	#4
IsrAmeriPrius Progressive Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 4,338 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: #6 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	Troll alert!!!

11-23-2005, 03:09 PM	#5
brandon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Manhattan, KS Posts: 771 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: #6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Friends: 0	There's a technical explanation somewhere here that says why the car moves slightly when the ICE kicks in, and I'm sure others will chime in with that explanation as well. However, if the car was in park when the ICE started up, it is, to my understanding, physically impossible for the car to move more than a few inches unless something has damaged the prawl.

11-23-2005, 03:15 PM	#8
aaf709 Ravenpaw of ThunderClan Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,840 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: #6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	Was this a startup situation, or had you pulled into the space after a drive?