Toyota Canada - Access

[drvan]

Originally posted by Frank Hudon@Jan 7 2006, 11:08 PM
I thought that the "access" price scheme was declared illegal (deemed as price fixing) yet the dealers still seem to think that they can get away with it. I'd tell them that and see what their reaction is.

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Excellent idea. I'll give it a try... no harm in that. But from all the other posts, I'm not too optimistic.

When I went to the Richmond dealership in the automall, the sales manager said that They do not dicker, but could not confirm that other dealers were the same. (I think this is how they get around the price fixing -- by saying that other deals may wiggle on the price.

And at Downtown Toyota, the manager said, "'Access' has been incredibly popular across all the dealers in Canada (save for Ontario), though by law we have to say in our adds "Dealer may sell for less."

It's a crappy game they are playing with customers. Somehow I don't think that Access is supposed to benefit the consumer as much as it is the dealer.

David.

[drvan]

Originally posted by DaveG@Jan 7 2006, 01:34 AM
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BTW: Just a heads-up, if you get your extended insurance through Canadian Direct instead of ICBC, you get an extra "hybrid discount" of about $200/yr, so it might be worth checking into when you are pricing insurance.

Dave

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Dave--
Thanks so much... awesome bit of info there. That $200 savings makes up for my opting for the '06 rather than a $1000 discount on an '05. Just couldn't do the '05 because of the ivory interior, and the blue exterior, while nice, just doesn't warm up to me... I'm paranoid that the colour will be incredibly dated in a few years. So classic silver for me. 1,000,000 thank you's again!
Cheers,
David.

[drvan]

Originally posted by northvan@Jan 7 2006, 10:53 PM
My brother-in-law bought a Matrix in Courtenay, B.
[....] I ordered it last October, elected to wait for the '06 because I wanted to stay away from the ivory interior, and liked the sounds of silver pine mica.  At that time they weren't able to show me a sample of the colour and  they couldn't tell me the price of the '06's.

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Hey--
Okay, so I'm not the only one that opted for an '06 rather than an '05 at a $1,000 discount. Same reason too: the infamous ivory interior!!! Actually, they couldn't show me a colour-swatch either. The best they could do if have me peer into the fogged-up windows of an '05 Prius that came in for servicing to see the ivory. I don't know if I made the right choice... in financial terms, I mean. I'm just thinking that ivory = mess very, very quickly. I went with the '06 Classic Silver w/ grey interior. I'd be interested in hearing from anyone that went with the ivory interior, be their reaction be good, bad or indifferent.
David.

[kam]

Originally posted by Frank Hudon@Jan 8 2006, 01:08 AM
I thought that the "access" price scheme was declared illegal (deemed as price fixing) yet the dealers still seem to think that they can get away with it. I'd tell them that and see what their reaction is.

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My understanding of this, which may be way off, is that it was found to be illegal because Toyota Canada was helping the dealerships within each region set a fixed price (slightly below MSRP). It was deemed illegal so Toyota Canada removed themselves from the loop and now the dealers simply use MSRP as the fixed price. It's not illegal for Toyota to specify an MSRP on a consumer item and dealers are free to discount that price if they wish (nudge, nudge, wink, wink).

Of course the fact that the dealers all get together and decide they'll stick to the MSRP pricing is not Toyota's concern.

Personally I'm of two minds on this. Having bought our Prius under the initial Toyota Access plan (I got a total of $50 dollars below MSRP I think), I have to say that it was the most stress free pleasant car buying experience I've had. On the other hand it annoys me that there's no haggling since the general consensus when buying large ticket items is you haggle.

[Frank Hudon]

Originally posted by drvan@Jan 11 2006, 12:48 PM
Hey--
Okay, so I'm not the only one that opted for an '06 rather than an '05 at a $1,000 discount. 

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don't forget to apply for the PST rebate if it's not discounted on the sales invoice. You used to have to apply to the taxation branch in Victoria to get the rebate, and I'm unsure what the procecure is now.

[Tideland Prius]

Yeah, you get $2,000 back from PST. That'll cover the cost of the navigation package (package C)

[drvan]

Originally posted by Frank Hudon@Jan 11 2006, 06:22 PM
don't forget to apply for the PST rebate if it's not discounted on the sales invoice. You used to have to apply to the taxation branch in Victoria to get the rebate, and I'm unsure what the procecure is now.

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Hey there--
The $2000 Provincial Government tax rebate is included in the sales invoice... however, I've heard rumours of the Federal Government following suit with some/all(?) Provinces. Again, maybe pie in the sky, but it seems as though they may make it retro-active. All depends upon the outcome of the elections in Canada... another great reason to NOT vote for Stephen Harper. Anyone else heard these Federal Government tax rebate rumours for alternative fuel vehicles.
David.

[Tideland Prius]

Nope, never haven't heard anything about it.

Funny how it's included now. It wasn't when I bought it. We had to mail in a separate form to the gov't in return we got a cheque.

[Frank Hudon]

nope me neither not a peep about a tax credit for hybrids from the feds. Like Tideland Prius I had to apply for both of the cars.

[chuckieland]

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nope me neither not a peep about a tax credit for hybrids from the feds. Like Tideland Prius I had to apply for both of the cars.
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HI guys, i'm in Toronto
i went to don valley toyota for my 2006 prius
i was able to neogiate the price down to 30124 from 31800. but dealer won't give me anything else except interior protection.......
I want to ask, how to apply the PST tax break?
also anyone from Toronto or Ontario know where i can get the EV mod done?