2009 / 2010 PRIUS RUMOR -or- TRUTH ??

FloridaWen · 05-15-2007, 10:02 AM

I am not sure if this is a rumor or truth, but I read this in another Prius Forum thread:

Toyota is planning a redesign of the Prius, which will be a plug-in (electricity is still cleaner energy than gasoline) either in 2009 and 2010 but have not released information about price.

**efusco** · 05-15-2007, 10:18 AM

It's a rumor that may turn out to be the truth. But there has been no confirmation of the rumor by Toyota yet.

ystasino · 05-15-2007, 10:42 AM

Toyota may offer the plug-in as an option but it makes no sense to force people to plug their cars in as it would limit their appeal.

I do believe that the next Prius is going to make America buy it like crazy...

finman · 05-15-2007, 10:52 AM

For over a hundred years, people have been forced to plug in their cars...to a dirty gas station pump.

Today, how would that be different with electric cars? You get to plug it in at home (while sleeping), at the mall (while shopping, taking in a movie)...it seems a no-brainer, but with all the "hype" (or propaganda), plugging in seems to be advertised as bad. Hmmm, think about the simplicity.

I don't get it. NEVER plugging in at some remote gas station, instead, refueling my car while I do something else...sign me up!

Toyota may rue the day it advertised the "best part of a hybrid? not plugging in". I'm just saying...

larkinmj · 05-15-2007, 10:59 AM

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For over a hundred years, people have been forced to plug in their cars...to a dirty gas station pump.

Today, how would that be different with electric cars? You get to plug it in at home (while sleeping), at the mall (while shopping, taking in a movie)...it seems a no-brainer, but with all the "hype" (or propaganda), plugging in seems to be advertised as bad. Hmmm, think about the simplicity.

I don't get it. NEVER plugging in at some remote gas station, instead, refueling my car while I do something else...sign me up!

Toyota may rue the day it advertised the "best part of a hybrid? not plugging in". I'm just saying...
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The thing about a PHEV is that you don't HAVE to ever plug it in. Toyota would just have to market it the right way- you can plug it in if you want to, or never plug it in if you don't want to. I don't like the idea of encouraging people NOT to plug in a PHEV, but if that is the price we have to pay in order to make the car marketable so that we can get our hands on it...

tiger roach · 05-15-2007, 11:31 AM

My stance on "plugging in" will depend on how long it will take to charge and how much juice it will use (cost of electricity from wall vs. gas).

slair · 05-15-2007, 12:41 PM

I think its a really dumb idea. The whole reason I chose the prius over a PHEV is because I dont have to plug it in. What about the people that live in apartments?

OlsonBW · 05-15-2007, 12:43 PM

The best option is multiple options. Meaning getting power for best price AND more environmentally friendly.

A great option, if you can afford it, is putting solar panels on your house (or yard or ...) and charging up batteries which you then connect to at night where it can charge while you are asleep. Sure that costs money, but doesn't everything? Nothing is free. Note that the price from the grid is going to keep going up. That's the only sure thing. That and the price you paid for the solar panels and batteries will have been already set at the time you bought them.

I haven't done that yet. But we are planning on moving in the next couple of years. Once we do I fully expect to once we move.

**efusco** · 05-15-2007, 01:00 PM

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I think its a really dumb idea. The whole reason I chose the prius over a PHEV is because I dont have to plug it in. What about the people that live in apartments? [/b]

It's dumb b/c you live in an apartment? Nobody's making you trade in your Prius and you could still use a PHEV and never plug it in and still get great gas mileage. I'm not sure what makes you feel this is 'dumb'....

Reducing fossil fuel use doesn't seem dumb. Even if cost is higher than for gas (which is extremely unlikely) I'd still take a PHEV just to reduce gas use...the same reason I paid the so-called "hybrid premium" to get a Prius.

**Tideland Prius** · 05-15-2007, 01:47 PM

Yeah... the point of a PHEV is you have the OPTION of plugging it in IF you want to. If you don't, then just enjoy the next gen Prius as a regular hybrid. If you want to get the full experience, then plug it in.

It's like saying, HDTV is a dumb idea, why don't I keep my regular LCD TV. Well, you can still buy a new LCD HDTV and enjoy the size and quality of it or you can utilise it to its fullest with an HDTV cable/sat box and HDMI/DVI.

05-15-2007, 10:52 AM	#4
finman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 992 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #7 Thanks: 14 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Friends: 0	For over a hundred years, people have been forced to plug in their cars...to a dirty gas station pump. Today, how would that be different with electric cars? You get to plug it in at home (while sleeping), at the mall (while shopping, taking in a movie)...it seems a no-brainer, but with all the "hype" (or propaganda), plugging in seems to be advertised as bad. Hmmm, think about the simplicity. I don't get it. NEVER plugging in at some remote gas station, instead, refueling my car while I do something else...sign me up! Toyota may rue the day it advertised the "best part of a hybrid? not plugging in". I'm just saying... __________________ 04' Seaside Pearl #7. Fumoto oil drain, add-on mudflaps, rear bumper scuff protector & rear sensor warn, compass mirror, EV mode, synthetic oil, 8" custom sub in right rear cubby, 6" subs under front seats, power lumbar and seat heaters in front seats, Coastaletech hitch with Aspen bike/snowboard rack, iPod2car, DVD video, 2 amps, Alpine component speakers, solid 47 MPG @81000 miles, best tank 56 MPG.

05-15-2007, 12:43 PM	#8
OlsonBW Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 253 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	The best option is multiple options. Meaning getting power for best price AND more environmentally friendly. A great option, if you can afford it, is putting solar panels on your house (or yard or ...) and charging up batteries which you then connect to at night where it can charge while you are asleep. Sure that costs money, but doesn't everything? Nothing is free. Note that the price from the grid is going to keep going up. That's the only sure thing. That and the price you paid for the solar panels and batteries will have been already set at the time you bought them. I haven't done that yet. But we are planning on moving in the next couple of years. Once we do I fully expect to once we move. __________________ My 2007 Prius Touring Package #3 web pages.

05-15-2007, 01:47 PM	#10
Tideland Prius Moderator of the North Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 19,633 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: N/A Package: Technology Package (Canada) Thanks: 229 Thanked 346 Times in 245 Posts Friends: 23	Yeah... the point of a PHEV is you have the OPTION of plugging it in IF you want to. If you don't, then just enjoy the next gen Prius as a regular hybrid. If you want to get the full experience, then plug it in. It's like saying, HDTV is a dumb idea, why don't I keep my regular LCD TV. Well, you can still buy a new LCD HDTV and enjoy the size and quality of it or you can utilise it to its fullest with an HDTV cable/sat box and HDMI/DVI. __________________ 2005 Tideland Pearl Premium Package 25/10/04 VVT-i Emblem, Sport Pedals, All-Weather Mats, Cargo Mat, EV Mod, JDM Prius Footwell Lighting, DICE iPod Kit 2008 Deep Black smart fortwo passion coupé - sold (6.1L/100km) 2010 Blue Ribbon Metallic Technology Package 29/08/09 All-Weather Mats, Homemade Console Pads, LED lighting "Ask an Expert" on Facebook I am not employed by Toyota, and the opinions expressed by me as a Prius Expert are not those of Toyota.

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05-15-2007, 10:02 AM	#1
FloridaWen Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Plant City, Florida Posts: 557 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: Package: #5 Touring Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 1	I am not sure if this is a rumor or truth, but I read this in another Prius Forum thread: Toyota is planning a redesign of the Prius, which will be a plug-in* (electricity is still cleaner energy than gasoline) either in 2009 and 2010 but have not released information about price.*

05-15-2007, 10:18 AM	#2
efusco Troll Slayer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nixa, MO Posts: 17,255 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #9 Thanks: 50 Thanked 263 Times in 158 Posts Friends: 37	It's a rumor that may turn out to be the truth. But there has been no confirmation of the rumor by Toyota yet.

05-15-2007, 10:42 AM	#3
ystasino Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 395 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: Package: #2 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Friends: 0	Toyota may offer the plug-in as an option but it makes no sense to force people to plug their cars in as it would limit their appeal. I do believe that the next Prius is going to make America buy it like crazy...

05-15-2007, 11:31 AM	#6
tiger roach Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 75 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	My stance on "plugging in" will depend on how long it will take to charge and how much juice it will use (cost of electricity from wall vs. gas).

05-15-2007, 12:41 PM	#7
slair Ubër Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lafayette, IN Posts: 404 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: #6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	I think its a really dumb idea. The whole reason I chose the prius over a PHEV is because I dont have to plug it in. What about the people that live in apartments?