Toyota Prius PHEV Test Car Specs

**efusco** · 07-25-2007, 10:05 AM

Sorry to make a new thread for this, but I can't figure out how to add a PDF attachment in reply to the existing Prius PHEV threads.

Credit to Wayne Brown for giving me the specs.

finman · 07-25-2007, 11:15 AM

Is 100 Km/hour possible using the "old" 5K RPM limit of MG1? I thought that was the limiting factor of electric only travel...or will the engine be spinning at that speed, like it does now? I wonder if the 34 MPH forced EV will change. Sounds like the normal EV mode will be able to do 60 MPH with the plug-in!

usbseawolf2000 · 07-25-2007, 11:25 AM

62 MPH EV speed should not be a problem. The MG1 in the 04' MY Prius is capable of spinning up to 10,000 RPM.

Video of charging and test drive posted in the other thread posted by Ken.

**efusco** · 07-25-2007, 11:34 AM

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Is 100 Km/hour possible using the "old" 5K RPM limit of MG1? I thought that was the limiting factor of electric only travel...or will the engine be spinning at that speed, like it does now? I wonder if the 34 MPH forced EV will change. Sounds like the normal EV mode will be able to do 60 MPH with the plug-in! [/b]

AFAIK the max speed of MG1 is 10k rpm and the rpm at 62mpg is just under that 10k peak. So we should be on a 'no-spin' EV only up to that 62mph.
Others have raised concern over lubrication of the system in such high speed and prolonged EV conditions. It's likely that they'll add a small electric pump for lube.

David Beale · 07-25-2007, 11:45 AM

Just two comments. How many get "after-peak hours" lower electrical rates? I've never seen it in Canada.

Looks like they've just doubled the current battery. Can I do that, can I, can I?

Otherwise, it's very similar to the current car. The video link posted failed. Looking for the original topic to view it.

Thanks, Evan, for posting the PDF.

**efusco** · 07-25-2007, 11:47 AM

You can double your battery pack, but you're still going to be restricted in your ability to charge it, your ability to exceed 34mph, and your usable SOC range.

mcbrunnhilde · 07-25-2007, 11:52 AM

I wonder why the battery is still Nimh and not L-ion......

Per · 07-25-2007, 12:08 PM

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62 MPH EV speed should not be a problem. The MG1 in the 04' MY Prius is capable of spinning up to 10,000 RPM.

Video of charging and test drive posted in the other thread posted by Ken.
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Could the gear ratio of MG1 be changed to get around this limitation?

Also, I noticed the overall power was increased to 136 HP--wonder how much that would increase performance?

finman · 07-25-2007, 01:03 PM

My bad. just read another thread for the 10K RPM limit on MG1.

5K RPM limit on the ICE. (bangs hand into forehead)

Well, let's get this to the public before the GM volt takes over the world!

**Tideland Prius** · 07-25-2007, 01:41 PM

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I wonder why the battery is still Nimh and not L-ion......
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They're simulating the power of their Li-Ion by using the 2 NiMH battery. IOW, this is probably EV range we'll get when Toyota releases its Li-Ion plug-in Prius.

07-25-2007, 10:05 AM	#1
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07-25-2007, 11:15 AM	#2
finman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 992 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #7 Thanks: 14 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Friends: 0	Is 100 Km/hour possible using the "old" 5K RPM limit of MG1? I thought that was the limiting factor of electric only travel...or will the engine be spinning at that speed, like it does now? I wonder if the 34 MPH forced EV will change. Sounds like the normal EV mode will be able to do 60 MPH with the plug-in!

07-25-2007, 11:25 AM	#3
usbseawolf2000 HSD PhD Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 3,254 My Car: 2006 Prius Model: Package: #3 Thanks: 106 Thanked 178 Times in 111 Posts Friends: 59	62 MPH EV speed should not be a problem. The MG1 in the 04' MY Prius is capable of spinning up to 10,000 RPM. Video of charging and test drive posted in the other thread posted by Ken.

07-25-2007, 11:45 AM	#5
David Beale Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 2,116 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: Package: B Thanks: 3 Thanked 77 Times in 58 Posts Friends: 0	Just two comments. How many get "after-peak hours" lower electrical rates? I've never seen it in Canada. Looks like they've just doubled the current battery. Can I do that, can I, can I? Otherwise, it's very similar to the current car. The video link posted failed. Looking for the original topic to view it. Thanks, Evan, for posting the PDF.

07-25-2007, 11:47 AM	#6
efusco Troll Slayer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nixa, MO Posts: 17,240 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #9 Thanks: 49 Thanked 249 Times in 148 Posts Friends: 37	You can double your battery pack, but you're still going to be restricted in your ability to charge it, your ability to exceed 34mph, and your usable SOC range.

07-25-2007, 11:52 AM	#7
mcbrunnhilde Opera singin' Prius nut! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 596 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	I wonder why the battery is still Nimh and not L-ion......

07-25-2007, 01:03 PM	#9
finman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 992 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #7 Thanks: 14 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Friends: 0	My bad. just read another thread for the 10K RPM limit on MG1. 5K RPM limit on the ICE. (bangs hand into forehead) Well, let's get this to the public before the GM volt takes over the world!